Colu Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 You can use panacur c it's a dog dewormers that's readily available active ingredient is fenbendazole this how @odduck recommend you dose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 On 7/20/2024 at 6:44 PM, Colu said: You can use panacur c it's a dog dewormers that's readily available active ingredient is fenbendazole 😕 I'm not doing that. I'm just going to get different guppies. 5 months down the drain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 7/21/2024 at 10:44 AM, Supermassive said: 😕 I'm not doing that. I'm just going to get different guppies. 5 months down the drain. I am very sorry to here this. I would maybe order them if you have not done that yet. Big box store(especially guppies)fish are not usually very healthy. But you never know. Again I am sorry. 🙁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 On 7/21/2024 at 3:44 PM, Supermassive said: 😕 I'm not doing that. I'm just going to get different guppies. 5 months down the drain. It's safe to use with fish it's just pure fenbendazole it's might be your only option in Canada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 On 7/21/2024 at 8:38 PM, Colu said: It's safe to use with fish it's just pure fenbendazole it's might be your only option in Canada How many treatments would I need to do, and in your opinion what are the odds they are actually cured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 On 7/22/2024 at 5:22 PM, Supermassive said: How many treatments would I need to do, and in your opinion what are the odds they are actually cured? It will take it will take three courses of treatment so you would treat week 1 week 2 week 3 following @oddduck dosing that I posted fenbendazole can work when other anti-parasitic medication haven't so I think it has a good chance of curing your fish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 Another female died. I noticed she had a tiny protuberance on her side. It was black in the center and white around it. Kind of looked like a tiny pimple except it was black or very dark in the center. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Sorry for your loss 😢 @Supermassive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 You can get black cyst with some type of nematode worms on the side of your fish I can't say for sure that's the cause in this case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted August 23 Author Share Posted August 23 @Colu I haven't medicated them anymore but they seem to be doing okay. The 3 survivors are all pretty fat now and eating well and their behavior seems normal. My concern now is are they still full of parasites and if I breed them and sell them are they going to get sick a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 On 8/23/2024 at 7:48 PM, Supermassive said: @Colu I haven't medicated them anymore but they seem to be doing okay. The 3 survivors are all pretty fat now and eating well and their behavior seems normal. My concern now is are they still full of parasites and if I breed them and sell them are they going to get sick a lot? If they still have parasite you will notice weight loss bloating and lose of appetite over the next couple of weeks with out further treatment I would just monitor for next month if there still behaving normally and don't suffer weight loss or lose of appetite or white stringy poop then I would say your fine to breed from them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Monday at 04:01 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:01 PM @Colu Everything has been going well but I just noticed something that worries me. They were all normal this morning when I fed them but I just saw one of the females swimming at the surface at a 45 degree angle. Then the other female nipped at her and she sank to the bottom and just sat there and the other female continued to nip at her for a couple minutes before I netted her. She is sitting in the net at a 45 degree angle at the surface. They are all really fat now and have been doing well up until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Monday at 04:58 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:58 PM She died. Idk what happened. Everything was fine for the past few weeks. I do 50% water changes weekly. I got sick and didn't do it this week but it shouldn't have mattered. They're only 3 guppies in a 10G I don't think they need weekly 50% water changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted Monday at 09:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:18 PM On 9/16/2024 at 5:58 PM, Supermassive said: She died. Idk what happened. Everything was fine for the past few weeks. I do 50% water changes weekly. I got sick and didn't do it this week but it shouldn't have mattered. They're only 3 guppies in a 10G I don't think they need weekly 50% water changes. Is it possible she was pregnant and had difficulty giving birth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Monday at 09:31 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 09:31 PM On 9/16/2024 at 5:18 PM, Colu said: Is it possible she was pregnant and had difficulty giving birth I suppose its possible but I wouldn't be able to say for sure. I've never bred fish before so idk what to look for exactly. I didn't notice any change in her behavior though. They were all fine yesterday behaving how they normally do and when I fed them this morning everything seemed fine. Maybe half an hour to an hour later I noticed her struggling and then she rapidly deteriorated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted Monday at 11:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:30 PM (edited) On 9/16/2024 at 10:31 PM, Supermassive said: I suppose its possible but I wouldn't be able to say for sure. I've never bred fish before so idk what to look for exactly. I didn't notice any change in her behavior though. They were all fine yesterday behaving how they normally do and when I fed them this morning everything seemed fine. Maybe half an hour to an hour later I noticed her struggling and then she rapidly deteriorated. Did she have a big and round belly like she might have been pregnant did she have a gravid spot like the female in this picture Edited Monday at 11:32 PM by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Monday at 11:36 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:36 PM On 9/16/2024 at 7:30 PM, Colu said: Did she have a big and round belly like she might have been pregnant did she have a gravid spot like the female in this picture Yes she was fat like that and had the dark area at her rear. The other female is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted Monday at 11:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:39 PM On 9/17/2024 at 12:36 AM, Supermassive said: Yes she was fat like that and had the dark area at her rear. The other female is the same. I would say most likely cause is having an issue giving birth I can't be a 100% sure that's the cause 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Monday at 11:45 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:45 PM On 9/16/2024 at 7:39 PM, Colu said: I would say most likely cause is having an issue giving birth I can't be a 100% sure that's the cause Dang. I didn't know it would happen that suddenly. She was fine and then an hour or two later she was dead. Only one male and one female left. I will keep a close eye on them over the next two weeks then add them to the main tank... hopefully 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted Monday at 11:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:50 PM On 9/17/2024 at 12:45 AM, Supermassive said: Dang. I didn't know it would happen that suddenly. She was fine and then an hour or two later she was dead. Only one male and one female left. I will keep a close eye on them over the next two weeks then add them to the main tank... hopefully 🙏 It's common for female guppies to have trouble giving brith it's more then likely due to inbreeding and low genetic diversity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Tuesday at 12:01 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 12:01 AM On 9/16/2024 at 7:50 PM, Colu said: It's common for female guppies to have trouble giving brith it's more then likely due to inbreeding and low genetic diversity I've had a really bad experience with these guppies. Only two left out of the 8 I bought and I had to wait like 3 months to get them and now I'm 7 months invested into these guppies so I don't want to just get different ones. Maybe it would be wise to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted Tuesday at 10:29 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:29 AM (edited) On 9/17/2024 at 1:01 AM, Supermassive said: I've had a really bad experience with these guppies. Only two left out of the 8 I bought and I had to wait like 3 months to get them and now I'm 7 months invested into these guppies so I don't want to just get different ones. Maybe it would be wise to do so. It's a common problem in a lot of the fancy over bred livebearers wild type livebearers don't have as many problems are generally more hardy endlers are less over bred from what I have seen and have less health issues and have a lot of nice colour variants Edited Tuesday at 10:35 AM by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Tuesday at 06:50 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 06:50 PM @Colu The other female has been doing some flashing today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM (edited) On 9/17/2024 at 7:50 PM, Supermassive said: @Colu The other female has been doing some flashing today They can flash when there about give birth I think this is the most likely cause Edited Tuesday at 10:10 PM by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermassive Posted Tuesday at 10:33 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 10:33 PM On 9/17/2024 at 6:10 PM, Colu said: They can flash when there about give birth I think this is the most likely cause Oh that is really good info, thank you. When you say "about to" do you mean in the coming days or like hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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