P3TADOPTC0 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Hi yall, I just got this fancy goldfish and introduced them to a new 20 gal tank. At the store I bought them from they looked fine, but after a day in my tank, they've developed this white film on them. In the tank next to the one I got my fish from, there were a lot of Popeye goldfish covered in white, what I think what could be ich, and dying. I think what my fish has is some bacterial or fungal infection, but I'm not sure exactly what. I cycled my tank for a few days with Prime and Stability, and parameters look good. 0 ppm ammonia, 0 ppm nitrite and no more than 20 ppm nitrate, 150 ppm hardness (I live in an area where the water is very hard), 0 ppm chlorine, 40 ppm akalinity and 6.8 to 7.0 ph, and temperature of 70. The fish was swimming around day 1, but today has been sitting at the bottom of the tank in the corner. Any help, input or advice is greatly appreciated! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwcarlson Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Doesn't look like ich. Does look like it's shedding slime coat, which can be caused by multiple things. Is your fish breathing heavy? Ich is tiny white spots. Something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3TADOPTC0 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 I would say that the breathing seems heavy, but its not rapid or faster than usual. Also, they are moving around well still, and has no clamped or frayed fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3TADOPTC0 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 The "fuzz" on my goldfish has noticably gotten worse in the past few hours, and their swimming is much slower and labored. I'm thinking about putting in some stress coat to help with the slime coat replacement? Any advice needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwcarlson Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I've never owned goldfish and have only had discus shed slimecoat once when I added a bottle of Fitzyme to their tank. I couldn't tell you what caused it, but it ended up killing one of them. The only thing I could think was that it was a pH shift from something in the bottle? It was a near immediate reaction. Bacteria or parasites could cause them to shed it, but I suspect that it's something to do with your water. Have you tested your water today? Maybe you've got something going on that you haven't caught on a test. How much Prime have you been using? When did you last dose it? It might be worth dosing Prime for the volume of the tank if it's been a day or two. I can't comment on stress coat, perhaps someone else can help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3TADOPTC0 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Water test from the morning results was today, and it is a brand new tank that I set the fish up in. To be fair I only have strip tests, but everything looked good. Its 20 gal, so I set up it up with 20 drops, which was 2 days ago. On day 1 I used 10 ml of Stability, and since then for the past two days I've been using 5 ml daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nora Loves Corys Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/5/2024 at 12:34 PM, P3TADOPTC0 said: Water test from the morning results was today, and it is a brand new tank that I set the fish up in. To be fair I only have strip tests, but everything looked good. Its 20 gal, so I set up it up with 20 drops, which was 2 days ago. On day 1 I used 10 ml of Stability, and since then for the past two days I've been using 5 ml daily. The test strips (and even the liquid test kits) have low sensitivity for water quality parameters; this means that even if everything reads "normal" with them, you still might have a water quality problem. This is particularly true for nitrite, which is toxic at levels as low as 0.1 ppm; from casual perusal I believe neither the liquid test kits nor strips detect nitrites until they have accumulated to 2.5X this level. It is never wrong to do a large water change (making sure that the new water matches the water parameters of the tank water) to make sure the water quality is pristine--whatever is wrong with your fish, this can only help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3TADOPTC0 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Do you reccomend I up the dosage of Prime then? For 10 gallons, about 50% of the water for the water change, it reccomends 20 drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nora Loves Corys Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/5/2024 at 12:52 PM, P3TADOPTC0 said: Do you reccomend I up the dosage of Prime then? For 10 gallons, about 50% of the water for the water change, it reccomends 20 drops. I don't use Prime, so I can't comment intelligently on this. I'm sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwcarlson Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/5/2024 at 2:52 PM, P3TADOPTC0 said: Do you reccomend I up the dosage of Prime then? For 10 gallons, about 50% of the water for the water change, it reccomends 20 drops. I'd dose for whatever it recommends and dose it for the whole volume of the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3TADOPTC0 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Great, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/5/2024 at 3:34 PM, P3TADOPTC0 said: Water test from the morning results was today, I think the biggest challenge you have is you don't know what the water parameters were where he came from. your parameters may be perfect. but what was he accustomed to. he might be in a mini shock just from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Over production of the slime coat it can be caused by poor water quality such as high levels of chlorine or chloramines a bacterial infections flukes or childonelia or costia some of the fish at the store in other tanks had visible issues the fact it has come on very quickly and your water parameters looks fine what I would do is add an extra air stone and do course of kanaplex if your seeing no improvement after 24hr @P3TADOPTC0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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