Fish Folk Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Absolutely the most energetic fish I have ever kept… Boy is getting ready for spawning! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Nice colors! Are they related to Rainbow shiners? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 1:59 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Nice colors! Are they related to Rainbow shiners? Not exactly. Rainbow Shiners are Notropis chrosomus. Fieryblack Shiners are Cyprinella pyrrhomelas. Here is the iNaturalist info page on Rainbow Shiners. Their range looks like this… In the wild, here is what Rainbow Shiners look like… Here is the iNaturalist info page on Fieryblack Shiners. Their range looks like this… Here is underwater male v. male combat footage of Fieryblack Shiners… I actually got mine as F1 juveniles from one of the guys who filmed this! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 What's funny is that I was looking to make a local biotope a while back and didn't know very much about what lived where I am, so I used fishmap.org to find ideas. Thats how I figured out about Fieryblack Shiners in the first place, and they are probably my favorite fish. Yours seem to have grown quite fast! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 1:47 PM, Fish Folk said: actually got mine as F1 juveniles from one of the guys who filmed this! Those are epic! Can’t wait to see your future fry 😜! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Finally caught some (and the bucket stayed secure)! Man they are just wonderful! I captured about 14ish. John's River, Catawba Drainage, NC near Colletsville. All were caught in a Cast Net in a shallow pool. Warpaint Shiners, Juvenile Chubs, and Spottail Shiners also present, but the majority of fish caught were Fieryblacks. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 1:32 PM, AquaHobbyist123 said: Finally caught some (and the bucket stayed secure)! Man they are just wonderful! I captured about 14ish. John's River, Catawba Drainage, NC near Colletsville. All were caught in a Cast Net in a shallow pool. Warpaint Shiners, Juvenile Chubs, and Spottail Shiners also present, but the majority of fish caught were Fieryblacks. Well done! Now, I'd be very attentive to their native water conditions before bringing indoors -- assuming you're planning to keep some? I have heard that F0s can really breakdown in that transfer. Mine are F1s -- much, much easier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Temp acclimating now, target goal for my tank's temp is about 68 degrees, the average temp for this river. Monitoring them closely. The majority of fish I collected were juveniles, so they should stand a better chance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 2:17 PM, AquaHobbyist123 said: Temp acclimating now, target goal for my tank's temp is about 68 degrees, the average temp for this river. Monitoring them closely. When the males retain pink lips, they're ready to spawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) All doing well so far. Not a single mortality. I collected a good number in case mortality was an issue, but so far they're doing great. One thing that I think helped was the collection site being very local, and the collection period was about an hour at most so they were transported home promptly. Edited September 22, 2023 by AquaHobbyist123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) Â @Fish Folk Acclimated successfully, no deaths and they are doing quite well! They are taking a bit of flake food. Edited September 22, 2023 by AquaHobbyist123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 That is awesome!!! When you’ve got time, I’d love to see a short video. On NANFA Fb Group, message Phil Farrell out in CA. He can explain how to get them breeding.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Fieryblack Shiners (and a Warpaint Shiner) feeding! https://youtu.be/WyR-r984Vr4?si=8SXMZdKQnJrhb-ze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 Cool!!! Looks like maybe a few WP shiners, yes?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Just one. I found several of them and brought back one warpaint, though Fieryblacks were much more abundant there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Interestingly, I catch Warpaints a lot even though they're not native to this watershed. Heyre very abundant in cool, rocky streams. I've found them in the Yadkin River too in the Pee Dee Basin. All collecting conducted here was done in an hour with a Cast Net in a pool about 2.5 ft deep. I was just walking by it and decided to cast my net in there just because, and the first fish I caught were Fieryblacks. One thing I am keeping an eye on these for is Fin rot though, because they have a tendency to nip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 2:59 PM, AquaHobbyist123 said: Looking good! Did everyone make the transition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 All but 4 juveniles and (I collected extra because I was expecting losses greater than thus even), who did not make it due to fin rot which I was unsuccessful in stopping. The vast majority made it though. Again, it probably helps that transit time for them was minimal. They never went in the tank anwayays as I noticed it early during acclimation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 All of them are still happy and healthy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 10:44 PM, AquaHobbyist123 said: All of them are still happy and healthy! That's so great! They're some of my favorite species. I cannot get mine to slow down at all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 These guys deserve way more attention than they get. There are a few people who do breed this species, such as Derek Wheaton and Phil Farell, and obviously @Fish Folk and me eventually (I hope). However, it is pretty much only available from breeders, special NANF dealers, or in native fish circles. I hope to one day get this wonderful fish species to be more common in the hobby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:20 AM, AquaHobbyist123 said: These guys deserve way more attention than they get. There are a few people who do breed this species, such as Derek Wheaton and Phil Farell, and obviously @Fish Folk and me eventually (I hope). However, it is pretty much only available from breeders, special NANF dealers, or in native fish circles. I hope to one day get this wonderful fish species to be more common in the hobby. They’re a really lively, active fish. Mine are happy to eat anything. Fry grow very slowly, so turn around on breeding is slow. They’re not very aggressive unless jousting for spawning rights. Almost impossible to photograph. I’ve only gotten a couple semi-decent shots of mine… 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Impossible to photograph all right. They refuse to stay still for even a second! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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