Black Phantom Tera not looking good

[flyingcow]

So this is my first foray into isolating and trying to help a fish. I have a female Black Phantom who has always been a little small, and now she's getting tiny and looking very distressed. I've had her for about 8 months. I have erythromycin and paraclense (I have ich-x as well, but there is no sign of ich). She currently has a long stringy poop she's working out. I'm going to remove the plants and do a quick water change and then move her to the quarantine tank (it's currently plant storage B).

 

Thoughts? I think she might be beyond saving, but I'd love to try. Pardon the algae. My tank is a lifelong work in progress.

 

EDIT: My apologies:

Ammonia / Nitrite: 0ppm

Nitrate: 20-30 ppm

Kh: 4 degrees

Gh: 8 degrees

pH: 7.4

I did lose a snail last week (about 7 months) but everyone else in the tank (the other snail and the other 9 Black Phantoms plus 5 pandas, 9 Black Neons, and a Bolivian Ram) all look great. I also lost a panda and a black neon on separate occasions within the past 2 months.

Edited April 10 by flyingcow

[Colu]

Looks like a bit of a sunken belly that can be a sign of a parasitic infections you will get the odd random deaths weeks apart that would explain your other fish losses what I would do is treat all the fish with paracleanse every two week for a total of three full courses of treatment @flyingcow

[flyingcow]

On 4/10/2023 at 6:08 PM, Colu said:

Looks like a bit of a sunken belly that can be a sign of a parasitic infections you will get the odd random deaths weeks apart that would explain your other fish losses what I would do is treat all the fish with paracleanse every two week for a total of three full courses of treatment @flyingcow

That makes sense. Are there side effects I should watch out for when treating the whole tank?

[Colu]

On 4/10/2023 at 11:30 PM, flyingcow said:

That makes sense. Are there side effects I should watch out for when treating the whole tank?

From my experience paracleanse is safe medication as long as you follow the dosing instructions on the box i haven't had any side effects when I have used it to treat my fish in the past Theirs a small chance it will harm your benefial bacterial so I would test your water parameters more frequently during treatment 

Edited April 11 by Colu

[flyingcow]

On 4/10/2023 at 7:58 PM, Colu said:

From my experience paracleanse is safe medication as long as you follow the dosing instructions on the box i haven't had any side effects when I have used it to treat my fish in the past Theirs a small chance it will harm your benefial bacterial so would test your water parameters more frequently during treatment 

I dosed round one tonight! 3 packets in a 36 gallon. I'll keep you posted. Thanks so much for your help!

[flyingcow]

Just wanted to follow up and say thank you! She's already starting to show signs of improvement, so I'm gonna keep going down this path!

[flyingcow]

Ok. I did the first round of Paraclense last week. I haven't seen the female in about 4 days now, and I don't see a sign of her body, so I'm wondering if it was eaten. I now have a male losing color and starting to behave like she did (staying in a single spot losing weight etc.) He did join the rest to eat this morning, but then went right back to his corner. The plan as noted above by @Colu was to do Paraclense again starting next week. I did order some expel P, so I could do that instead. Thoughts?

Any thoughts on how to determine if I'm battling parasites vs TB? 

Pardon the algae... the struggle is real...

[Colu]

On 4/20/2023 at 7:04 PM, flyingcow said:

Ok. I did the first round of Paraclense last week. I haven't seen the female in about 4 days now, and I don't see a sign of her body, so I'm wondering if it was eaten. I now have a male losing color and starting to behave like she did (staying in a single spot losing weight etc.) He did join the rest to eat this morning, but then went right back to his corner. The plan as noted above by @Colu was to do Paraclense again starting next week. I did order some expel P, so I could do that instead. Thoughts?

Any thoughts on how to determine if I'm battling parasites vs TB? 

Pardon the algae... the struggle is real...

With weight loss and hiding away What you could do is  @Odd Duck treatment protocol for parasitic infections