Flumpweesel Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 2:01 AM, sweetpoison said: So I shouldn’t do any water changes just wait? Test every few days? Yes you're really close, the bacteria is there and doing it's job it is just finding its level. Who is going to live in this tank anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 12:05 AM, Flumpweesel said: Yes you're really close, the bacteria is there and doing it's job it is just finding its level. Who is going to live in this tank anyway? @FlumpweeselI do not know who is going to live in my tank as wet pets. I go back-and-forth between puffers, one beta, oh, my friend has a Discus, who is in dire need of a home. I’ve had one discus before ~ I’ve had many before. My favorite fish in the whole world. They’re better in groups of three or more but one, I had for years just with an angelfish he was a rescue. And I have to have rummy nose! Discus require pristine water conditions, water changes lots of care. Can’t put anything with the Beta or the puffer fish🙄Decisions decisions. I have my decorations and plants in now. Just finished. I haven’t tested my water yet I’m scared! But I’m going to ~ hopefully it will be zero ammonia zero nitrites and 10 nitrates. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumpweesel Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 That looks fab got my fingers crossed for those zeros. Three great options don't think you can go wrong really sounds like they'll all bring you joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 Thank you so much that means so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) On 10/10/2022 at 1:42 PM, Flumpweesel said: That looks fab got my fingers crossed for those zeros. Three great options don't think you can go wrong really sounds like they'll all bring you joy. I just tested ~ zero ammonia, 10 nitrate 1 nitrite same reading, as far except nitrates, went down to 10 from 25. What does this say to you guys? Do I just keep testing every couple of days and just wait it out? Edited October 12, 2022 by sweetpoison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Yup. Either ride that nitrite to 0, or do a water change and then ride it out to 0 from there. My .02 anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 That’s means you’re on phase 2! Woo hoo! Fish are in your near future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 11:34 AM, AllFishNoBrakes said: Yup. Either ride that nitrite to 0, or do a water change and then ride it out to 0 from there. My .02 anyways Ok! On 10/12/2022 at 11:58 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: That’s means you’re on phase 2! Woo hoo! Fish are in your near future! Phase 2? How many phases are there??😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 phases. Your ammonia has converted to nitrite and now your ammonia is at 0. Now you just gotta work through that nitrite! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) Ammonia converts to Nitrite. I don’t know if I knew that. So when’s nitrites are zero where did the ammonia go? Edited October 12, 2022 by sweetpoison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) On 10/12/2022 at 2:23 PM, sweetpoison said: Ammonia converts to Nitrite. I don’t know if I knew that. So when’s nitrites are zero where did the ammonia go? Ammonia(bad)-Nitrite(bad)-Nitrate(ok in small amounts). 😁 Edited October 12, 2022 by Patrick_G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 It’s a beautiful scape and really lovely setting for any fish. From what I gathered these are silk? I think a 20 long is too small for discus. I think it’s a perfect size for dwarf cichlids. Apistogramma such as cacatuoides or also Rams - Bolivian rams being the most forgiving and easy, other dwarfs checkerboard cichlids, or smaller Acara like Nannacara. You can definitely do rummynose in there. Id honestly consider an over the counter bacterial supplement after another water change and add fish. Put a lucky bamboo or some pothos in to eat the excess nitrogenous waste and you’re good. Have fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Ammonia becomes nitrite, and then the nitrite is converted to nitrates. From my understanding and to the best of my knowledge, it’s 2 separate beneficial bacteria. 1 converts ammonia to nitrite, and the second converts nitrite to nitrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 3:49 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: It’s a beautiful scape and really lovely setting for any fish. From what I gathered these are silk? I think a 20 long is too small for discus. I think it’s a perfect size for dwarf cichlids. Apistogramma such as cacatuoides or also Rams - Bolivian rams being the most forgiving and easy, other dwarfs checkerboard cichlids, or smaller Acara like Nannacara. You can definitely do rummynose in there. Id honestly consider an over the counter bacterial supplement after another water change and add fish. Put a lucky bamboo or some pothos in to eat the excess nitrogenous waste and you’re good. Have fun! Yeah, I’ve had discus for years in 55 gallon. But I’m rescuing one discus and trust me this 20 gallon is better than what’s coming. Thanks for the compliment. I love my tank. Yeah I know I thought I’d give up live plants and go for the challenge of silk plants.😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) On 10/12/2022 at 3:49 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: Id honestly consider an over the counter bacterial supplement after another water change and add fish. Put a lucky bamboo or some pothos in to eat the excess nitrogenous waste and you’re good. Have fun! I missed this part! I’m checking in once again ~ I just tested: ammonia Zero nitrate 25 nitrate 1 Last test was the 12th. I might go ahead and get that over the counter bacteria. Can you suggest some thing off of Amazon? I also wanted to know how much time do I have to add fish once my tank is ready? does it have to be right away? Edited October 19, 2022 by sweetpoison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I’ve used Fritz TurboStart (make sure you get the freshwater version!) and I was happy with it. If I were you, I’d add the bottled bacteria, and then wait no more than a couple of days to add a couple of fish.The bottle you provide will add the bacteria that you need, but you will need to feed the ammonia bacteria (with ammonia from fish waste) to keep everything going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) I like Fritz Zyme 7. I know your nitrite was low on the 12th; it's probably gone now. Once it's zero go ahead and add the fish! Edited October 19, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 For clarification, TurboStart is the more concentrated version of Fritz Zyme 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Thanks @AllFishNoBrakes ! @sweetpoison with your parameters so good, I don't think you need bottled bacteria. You're at the end of the cycle (as of the 12th). Probably today the cycle is complete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 8:48 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I like Fritz Zyme 7. I know your nitrite was low on the 12th; it's probably gone now. Once it's zero go ahead and add the fish! But I tested the water today and nitrites are still one it’s not zero yet… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpoison Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Ok I won’t get the bacteria! I have so many half bottles of things. I’m thinking of getting her discus and tetras on Monday. If my Nitrites ever hit zero. I will do a wc tomorrow if that’s ok… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 My only comment would be I personally wouldn’t throw discus into a *maybe* cycled tank. An established/seasoned tank, sure. Start with the tetras. Let them be the “canaries in the well”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 4:44 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: canaries in the well”. I grew up in the coal region of Pennsylvania. Canary in the Coal Mine became a saying because coal mines can have trapped methane gas, and to determine this, they’d send a canary in. Fun history facts! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Chick-In-Of-TheSea Yup! I knew it was historically accurate, and I thought it applied in this situation. I’m pretty sure way back on my IG I literally described the GlowLight Tetras I first started my 29 gallon with as the “canaries in the well” to make sure it was cycled. I grew up in CO, not sure why it’s “well” out here when it should be “coal mine” 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) On 10/19/2022 at 7:49 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: @Chick-In-Of-TheSea Yup! I knew it was historically accurate, and I thought it applied in this situation. I’m pretty sure way back on my IG I literally described the GlowLight Tetras I first started my 29 gallon with as the “canaries in the well” to make sure it was cycled. I grew up in CO, not sure why it’s “well” out here when it should be “coal mine” 🤔 That’s kinda like how in some states they say soda and in other states they say pop. Did the Glo Lights make it? 😬 Edited October 20, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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