laritheloud Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Hi, I’ve had these pseudomugils for a few months now and this one is looking skinny and listless. It was weaker and skinnier from the start, the tank has been treated with a few rounds of general cure and a round of kanaplex in food. Is this something to separate and treat or do I have to treat the tank with big guns like levamisole? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 I am choosing to separate and try levamisole treatment. If it works I’ll treat the big tank too. The other fish are not sick at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I agree at this point I would treat with levamisole see how he does it he starts to improve then I would treat the main tank just in case any other fish have contacted parasites from this fish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 6:53 PM, Colu said: I agree at this point I would treat with levamisole see how he does it he starts to improve then I would treat the main tank just in case any other fish have contacted parasites from this fish I separated and observed him throughout the day. He's still eating, I gave him a tiny bit of frozen daphnia and he perked up after that. At first he was listless but now he's swimming normally again. Lights are off and he's behaving like a normal at-rest pseudomugil. I'm wondering if I should observe in isolation for a day or two and see if he's still acting weak tomorrow before dropping in the levamisole. It's one of those things where I don't want to rush to treatment and then rush to treat the main tank when it's not needed, you know? I have some rabbit snails and baby rabbit snails that I don't want to get slowed down by the levamisole if I can help it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I would leave a couple of days if you see him getting worse then I treat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 That's what I'll do! We'll see what happens. Thanks for your thoughts, you're always the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 you can add levamisole to food so it won't effect your rabbit snail if you do need to treat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 Acting a better today, even colored a bit by himself for me. I wonder if the rest of the school is bullying him since he's the smallest. I'll keep him separate until I'm sure he's improved enough for the main tank again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 I noticed some stringy white poop from the rainbow in quarantine so I threw in some Levamisole yesterday, did the water change today. I didn't notice anything unusual expelled from him. Still acting pretty much the same. I'm considering trying to feed a course of Metro-laced feed. Is it safe to do that along with levamisole 3x a week apart? I'll continue with the levamisole course but I'm not convinced it's nematodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You can use metroplex in between treatments with levamisole I wouldn't dose them at the same time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 No, I'm not planning on dosing simultaneously. I'll try between treatments. I'm planning on keeping him separate for about three weeks to a month to clear out my options, and I'll keep an eye on any developments in the 55 gallon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Sort-of an update: Not really getting better, not really getting worse. He (I say HE despite his female coloring due to the body shape and really faded marks, which would indicate a very young and/or very genetically weak male) was a little weak this morning, kind of swimming around listlessly and taking bites as food fell in front of him. He's looking stronger now that the sun is up and the lights are on in his tank. It's tough to say what's up with him, as he went through one round of levamisole and now I have the metronidazole going, then back for a second round of levamisole later. I'm not convinced treatment is having any effect. He's being fed twice per day to see if he'll put on some weight, and though he doesn't have a sunken belly, he's still quite small and skinny. I'm a bit puzzled and haven't medicated the 55 gallon tank so far. Every fish in that tank is still thriving. 🤷♀️ So strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 It possible he is genetically weak I would continue with treat he could take a well to get his strength back if he had a large amount of parasites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 Yep, I'm keeping it up and watching carefully. We'll see what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 Found him hardly able to swim and spiraling around the tank this morning @Colu. I am pretty sure he’s not going to make it, but my question now is what do I do about the 55 gallon tank? They are all visibly fine and have been for the 3 months they’ve been in the same tank. I’m not sure if I should drop any treatment in there just in case when I have no idea what this is, but I don’t want my other fish to get this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 I chose to euthanize. I put him in a small container and this is the best he could do for swimming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 What would is monitor for now as can't be 100% sure what he actually had he did have the symptoms for wasting disease but he could have just been genetically weak and not had internal parasites if your other fish aren't losing weight and have healthy appetit's I not treat yet if they start to lose weight I would treat straight away with expel p 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 9:57 AM, Colu said: What would is monitor for now as can't be 100% sure what he actually had he did have the symptoms for wasting disease but he could have just been genetically weak and not had internal parasites if your other fish aren't losing weight and have healthy appetit's I not treat yet if they start to lose weight I would treat straight away with expel p Thank you. I'm most worried about the rest of the tank, because the thicklip gouramis are my loves. However, I'm seeing absolutely no signs of issues, and from day 1 he was the only one who struggled along. Your help and advice is invaluable as always. I know I did what I could for him, and hopefully the rest of the tank will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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