SupersoNick95 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 So the brichardi was successful in his attempt to fertilize the Leleupi eggs and it seems he is even co-parenting with the Leleupi. Thankfully so far there hasn’t been any unusual aggression but only time will tell. I know it is frowned upon to keep hybrids of Tanganyikans in the hobby but, I do not plan to sell or donate any of the fry. I would like to keep one within the tank. The others will unfortunately probably be culled just to avoid any unwanted hybrids from spreading in the hobby. I hope this is the last breeding group I get in this tank as I’d much rather see the Leleupi acting normal instead of hiding to protect fry all day. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expectorating_Aubergine Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) The thing that always strikes me about the whole anti hybrid sentiment- is how do you know you're getting pure animals to start with? Lots of species are indistinguishable. We read about it all the time. Species A was actually a complex of 3 species that look almost identical (this happened with giraffes). Same with locality data. I know they are real stickers about that in europe, not so much here. The again it depends on what community you're in. I know tarantula people damn near lynch people for hybridising intentionally. Boa constrictor people, not so much.... Edited February 16, 2023 by Expectorating_Aubergine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Interesting cross-breed - can't wait to see the juveniles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knee Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 First time I've ever seen something like this. I thought only CA cichlid can hybridize. Looking forward to how they look like soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerceptivePesce Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I was watching a Cory of ACO video. Apparently, guppies and mollies can crossbreed, but the offspring are sterile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 5:43 PM, PerceptivePesce said: I was watching a Cory of ACO video. Apparently, guppies and mollies can crossbreed, but the offspring are sterile. Yes; I think the technical term is a “Golly”. Who came up with these?!?😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupersoNick95 Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:20 AM, Expectorating_Aubergine said: The thing that always strikes me about the whole anti hybrid sentiment- is how do you know you're getting pure animals to start with? Lots of species are indistinguishable. We read about it all the time. Species A was actually a complex of 3 species that look almost identical (this happened with giraffes). Same with locality data. I know they are real stickers about that in europe, not so much here. The again it depends on what community you're in. I know tarantula people damn near lynch people for hybridising intentionally. Boa constrictor people, not so much.... You make lots of sense. I was rethinking that whole perspective… don’t these fish hybridize in the wild all the time? If I don’t have any intention of giving them as a Leleupi or a brichardi then I don’t see the issue. Also, don’t a bunch of haps and peacocks cross ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expectorating_Aubergine Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 In captivity, yeah. Lots of animals will hybridize in captivity (like ligers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:20 AM, Expectorating_Aubergine said: The thing that always strikes me about the whole anti hybrid sentiment- is how do you know you're getting pure animals to start with? Lots of species are indistinguishable. We read about it all the time. Species A was actually a complex of 3 species that look almost identical (this happened with giraffes). Same with locality data. I know they are real stickers about that in europe, not so much here. The again it depends on what community you're in. I know tarantula people damn near lynch people for hybridising intentionally. Boa constrictor people, not so much.... agreed, youd be hard pressed in todays market to find a Xiphophorus Maculatus, or a Xiphophorus Helleri despite what people claim. pretty much all standard platies and swordtails in the hobby apart from a few specialists are hybrids. A Standard platy is actaully a Xiphophorus sp. it is a mix of Xiphophorus Maculatus, Xiphophorus helleri,xiphophorus variatus and possibly others. i think its funny how in some ACO videos they mention Variatus plaites, you can find some more variatus in the platy, but as i said except for a few speacialists good luck finding a real Xiphophorus Variatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) On 2/19/2023 at 4:50 PM, SupersoNick95 said: You make lots of sense. I was rethinking that whole perspective… don’t these fish hybridize in the wild all the time? If I don’t have any intention of giving them as a Leleupi or a brichardi then I don’t see the issue. Also, don’t a bunch of haps and peacocks cross ? Lake Tanganyika is a large lake, and the two species may not cross paths, living in different areas of the lake. Edited February 20, 2023 by Andy's Fish Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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