KittenFishMom Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Not sure this belongs in this thread, but it could be some experiments for a fish store. Bottled used fish tank water for houseplants. It could draw a bunch of non-fishy people into the store, and they could get hooked on planted indoor or patio ponds. I don't know what fish stores do with what is cleaned out of their sumps, but I am sure plants would love it, and it would be eco friendly, maybe even organic? The stores has the product, just needs bottles and labels, or to reduce overhead, have people fill they containers from a clearly labeled tap. Maybe sell by weight or volume or give it away, to get them in the store. Signs up front, tap in the back of the store. Small floating planters for forcing spring flower bulbs on top of fish tanks. (Maybe an option for the top of an HOB with a wick to the water?) You could make something like they have for hydroponics, but not so deep. You could even sell "pre chilled bulbs" that have to be chilled a certain number of days before they will bloom. You could also sell floating rings in different sizes for plant cuttings like Pothos or Swedish ivy or my favorite nitrogen hog, whole turnips. (turnip roots are so pretty) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 10:51 PM, KittenFishMom said: Bottled used fish tank water for houseplants Very niche market, and the average person inside a fish store already has an aquarium. On 10/19/2022 at 10:51 PM, KittenFishMom said: You could also sell floating rings in different sizes for plant cuttings That would be very useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 @TheSwissAquarist I was thinking that the bottled fish water could be advertised/ marketed to folks that don't have an aquarium, but do have plants. It would get them to venture into the fish store for the water for their plants, and get them hooked on aquarium plants and fish. P.S. Do you ever sleep? You seem to be on the forum day and night. It is great to see a high school student interested in something other than video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 6:49 AM, KittenFishMom said: @TheSwissAquarist I was thinking that the bottled fish water could be advertised/ marketed to folks that don't have an aquarium, but do have plants. It would get them to venture into the fish store for the water for their plants, and get them hooked on aquarium plants and fish. P.S. Do you ever sleep? You seem to be on the forum day and night. It is great to see a high school student interested in something other than video games. It’s 6:53 in the morning over here, and it is quite annoying when other teenagers just play video games and only speak Minecraft. I expect the bottled water venture could be doable in a garden centre… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 What time zone are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Swiss time , about +1 to GMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Oh, I get it now. I thought you were doing Swiss style tanks in the USA. It's 1:00am here in Central New York state, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 7:04 AM, KittenFishMom said: s 1:00am Do you every sleep?🙃 I don’t see how I could replicate a snow-capped mountain in an aquarium… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapexghost Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 3:51 PM, KittenFishMom said: Bottled used fish tank water for houseplants. There is liquid fertilizer for house plants out there. I check the ingredients for one, 12% nitrogen. Assuming fish tank water is 40 ppm nitrate, and nitrate is 23% nitrogen, that would make the fertilizer 13000 times more potent than fish tank water. If someone sold you a gallon of fish tank water for a penny, theyd be ripping you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 i think the Swiss style aquariums are very heavily planted, with fewer fish and hardscape. Just a note, Your American English is very good. I thought you lied here. I don't know much about snow capped mountains, but Swiss chocolate is wonderful ! Maybe you could make a volcano with an uplift tube carrying white sand to the top. Sort of like a sand waterfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 7:26 AM, KittenFishMom said: American English is very good. I'm actually English😂 On 10/20/2022 at 7:26 AM, KittenFishMom said: Maybe you could make a volcano with an uplift tube carrying white sand to the top. Could be an idea, just need to make it corydora proof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 @Scapexghost OK, give the fish water away, to get the people who wouldn't go in the store normally to go in the store. It is easy to burn plants with strong fertilizer, fish water is very safe and easy to use. No need to measure or mix or count drops. you just water the plants with it and they grow like crazy. It is pretty fool proof and a lot of people like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 7:33 AM, KittenFishMom said: No need to measure or mix or count drops. you just water the plants with it and they grow like crazy. It is pretty fool proof and a lot of people like that. That could be part of the appeal and USP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 1:31 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Could be an idea, just need to make it corydora proof... just buy the corydoras some skis and they will be too busy skiing to mess to the hardscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 7:35 AM, KittenFishMom said: just buy the corydoras some skis and they will be too busy skiing to mess to the hardscape. That would be so funny! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 I have to get some sleep. Have a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Good night!💤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepere Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I would love to see the old school dip tube return to market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 6:13 PM, Pepere said: I would love to see the old school dip tube return to market. You mean the metal tube with glass at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 I would love to see air pumps with build in check valves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 On dip tubes, I found these: I wonder if a glass turkey baster might work, or a turkey baster bulb on a long glass tube? https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw="dip+tubes"&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=aquarium+"dip+tubes"&_osacat=0 https://books.google.com/books?id=A3YIsIxOsyYC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=Aquarium+"dip+tubes"+"boys+life"&source=bl&ots=ZauQKhBveb&sig=ACfU3U0czT7Wil47GkBFqJHTYege94cSVQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_7uCYqe_6AhU-GFkFHbI6DCoQ6AF6BAgHEAM#v=snippet&q= "dip tube" &f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=YtMPqRbrR5kC&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=Aquarium+"dip+tubes"+"boys+life"&source=bl&ots=uvkUppGSEH&sig=ACfU3U28ktewScJ1SWwk9EiSRtUwRaqO5w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_7uCYqe_6AhU-GFkFHbI6DCoQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q="dip tubes" &f=false http://hiq.linde-gas.com/en/glossary/d/dip_tube/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepere Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 12:13 PM, TheSwissAquarist said: You mean the metal tube with glass at the end? No. It was a plastic tube with an air chamber at the end and a nozzle. you held your finger over the tube and submerged the air chamber over a bit of detritus you wanted to remove and lifted your finger off. the air would rush out and the water would rush in and take the bit in with it. perfect for a touch up that didn't need a full gravel vac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Oh, any long clear plastic tube you could seal with you finger or thumb should work. Maybe a chunk of syphon hose taped to something stiff. Your finger would hold the air in the tube while you place it over the detritus, when you release your finger,the air would rush out and the water and whatever would rush in. Then replace your finger to seal the tube and lift it out of the tank. Hardware stores sell all sizes of flexible plastic tubing. Heat it in tap hot water and hold it straight until it cools, then tape to a a stiff wire. Maybe an unbent wire coat hanger, the you could use the hook to hang it to dry. It you cut of the narrow tip of a long pipette style dropper and squeeze the bulb before putting it in the water, so you get small things by releasing the squeezed bulb. I think a turkey baster would work too. I'll do some googling and see what I find now that I understand how it is used. Note: When I want to syphon my boat. I fill the syphon tube with lake water, the cover both ends with my thumbs. I slowly lower one into the water in the boat, and the other a little lower and release my thumbs. very fast easy way to start a syphon. You can fill a hose at the sink, cover ends and put one in a fish tank and the other in the bucket and uncover the ends. Never need to suck on a syphon hose and getting a mouth full of yucky water again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 9:21 PM, Pepere said: No. It was a plastic tube with an air chamber at the end and a nozzle. you held your finger over the tube and submerged the air chamber over a bit of detritus you wanted to remove and lifted your finger off. the air would rush out and the water would rush in and take the bit in with it. perfect for a touch up that didn't need a full gravel vac. On 10/20/2022 at 9:41 PM, KittenFishMom said: Oh, any long clear plastic tube you could seal with you finger or thumb should work. Maybe a chunk of syphon hose taped to something stiff. Your finger would hold the air in the tube while you place it over the detritus, when you release your finger,the air would rush out and the water and whatever would rush in. Then replace your finger to seal the tube and lift it out of the tank. Hardware stores sell all sizes of flexible plastic tubing. Heat it in tap hot water and hold it straight until it cools, then tape to a a stiff wire. Maybe an unbent wire coat hanger, the you could use the hook to hang it to dry. It you cut of the narrow tip of a long pipette style dropper and squeeze the bulb before putting it in the water, so you get small things by releasing the squeezed bulb. I think a turkey baster would work too. I'll do some googling and see what I find now that I understand how it is used. Note: When I want to syphon my boat. I fill the syphon tube with lake water, the cover both ends with my thumbs. I slowly lower one into the water in the boat, and the other a little lower and release my thumbs. very fast easy way to start a syphon. You can fill a hose at the sink, cover ends and put one in a fish tank and the other in the bucket and uncover the ends. Never need to suck on a syphon hose and getting a mouth full of yucky water again. I might try that! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenFishMom Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) @Pepere How about this: Am I getting closer? https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=144137&catid=788 Edited October 21, 2022 by KittenFishMom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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