Fish Keep Dying

[IronmanMK54]

Hello I am seeking help as i am at a lost.

I have a 60 gallon freshwater with shrimp, snails, guppies, and some other fish. It is a low tech planted tank but i keep losing guppies to what i believe is wasting dieses. I have treated with Expel-P and ParaCleanse multiple times but i keep losing guppies and i am at a lost as to what to try to save my fish. I would love to save the shrimp as well but there is no way to get them out with how the tank is decorated.

 

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you. 

[kevincanada]

sorry to hear about the losses. how old are the guppies? do they have a bent back? if so, they are likely old or the water is not hard enough. they also age quicker the higher the temp so they are best kept on the cool side.  they generally dont last for over 2 yrs in my experience.

cheers

Edited October 15, 2022 by kevincanada

[IronmanMK54]

On 3/30/2022 at 1:00 PM, Patrick_G said:

On 10/15/2022 at 2:33 PM, kevincanada said:

sorry to hear about the losses? how old are the guppies? do they have a bent back? if so, they are likely old or the water is not hard enough. they generally dont last for over 2 yrs in my experience.

cheers

 

I thought it could be old age at first as the ones i started with were adults but i have even babies or subadult going very skinny then dying. Before they die they start not moving much just hanging on the surface as they look like they lost a lot of weight in a short time and start to lose some of their color. As for water I have quite hard water Ph 8.0-8.4 Ammoina 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 50. This tank has been setup since around April and is the only tank about of the 11 i have to have this problem.

[kevincanada]

Given your description I would think then it's likely a parasite.  have you tried using fenbendazole to worm them properly? That would be my next guess. If I were you I would take them out and put them in a 10 gallon hospital tank and try treating them rather than use all the money on treating the whole 60 gallon. 

Cheers 

[IronmanMK54]

Is there a fish med for that or do i use a dog or cat de-wormer? I have tried both Fritz meds meant for parasites but it doesnt seem to work.

 

[Colu]

A little more information would be helpful what are your water parameters ammonia nitrite nitrate KH GH any rapid breathing sunken belly spitting food out listlessness flashing when you treated with Expel p did you do three course of treatment 1 week apart and when treating paracleanse did you do a second course in two weeks after the first@IronmanMK54

[IronmanMK54]

On 10/15/2022 at 5:43 PM, Colu said:

A little more information would be helpful what are your water parameters ammonia nitrite nitrate KH GH any rapid breathing sunken belly spitting food out listlessness flashing when you treated with Expel p did you do three course of treatment 1 week apart and when treating paracleanse did you do a second course in two weeks after the first@IronmanMK54

Ph 8.0-8.4 Ammoina 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 50, KH High like 200-300 GH High my meter says 299 ppm. I do not notice any rapid breathing, I would say they have sunken bellies but its hard to tell as their whole body seems withered. When i treated i have done both ways of going by the instructions on the box and the way Aquarium Co-op says they do it. They are not spitting out the food as far as i have seen and they seem just as hungry as normal. Some of them have normal red colored poop (I am feeding them Krill flakes and brine shrimp) and some have this really stringy whitish clear poop which seems to be most apparent right before they die. I have been trying to treat this problem for like 2 months now giving breaks after treatment and seeing but its just not getting better and there is no way to get all the guppies out or the shrimp without completely taking the tank apart.

Hope this helps if you need anything else just let me know. Thanks.  

[Colu]

As levamisole hasn't worked what I would do is a course of fenbendazole in food feeding a small amount twice a day for up to 3 weeks