DamnKid Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I purchased platies online and they arrived with ich. How long should I treat them with Ich-X because I don’t see it on the instructions? The instructions say that I should redose Ich-X at least every 24 hours. Isn’t it too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) With ick x you do 30% daily water change and then you redose I would treat for 3 days after you see the last visible white spots to be on the safe side Edited November 18, 2021 by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 6:02 PM, Colu said: With ick x you do 30% daily water change and then you redose I would treat for 3 after you see the last visible white spots to be on the safe side Is Prime water conditioner ok to use with Ich-X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) It says not use with sultanate base water conditioner like prime it can the meds less effective but a lot of people have used ick x with prime and not had any problems I use API stress coat to be on the safe side when using ick x Edited November 19, 2021 by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 I hope that I won’t have a problem with the two together because I only have Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 6:19 PM, Colu said: It says not use with sultanate base water conditioner like prime it can the meds less effective but a lot of people have used it ick x with prime and not had any problems I use API stress coat to be on the safe side when using ick x Do you turn off the light during the treatment? Some say that light degrades the med. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I have never had a problem but I have read the most effective time to dose ich medication is just before you turn the lights out in the evening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 Can I treat my fish with Ich-X up to 14 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 5:29 PM, DamnKid said: Can I treat my fish with Ich-X up to 14 days? Yes you can treat for longer than 14days with ick x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxa Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 6:19 PM, Colu said: It says not use with sultanate base water conditioner like prime it can the meds less effective but a lot of people have used ick x with prime and not had any problems I use API stress coat to be on the safe side when using ick x Prime is a reducing agent. Formaldehyde, an ingredient in Ich-X can also behave as a reducing agent. In the aquarium, these chemicals can "donate" electrons to free oxygen gas in the aquarium water, producing water, hydrogen peroxide, and / or hydroxide ions. In any case, these chemicals lower the overall quantity of available oxygen within the aquarium. Prime and Ich-X likely don't interact directly, but using both simultaneously can cause a larger decrease in dissolved oxygen levels. The caveat here, though, is that when Prime is dosed appropriately, very little should remain in the system in the long-run. It'd also be ideal to use Prime and Ich-X at different times; water change in the morning, medication at night, for example. So, basically: yes, technically Prime and Ich-X can have minor negative impacts on the aquarium. In reality, however, proper use of these chemicals shouldn't lead to major problems; water changes are more important than a small reduction in oxygen pressure. It's not a bad idea to run an airstone during treatment, though, especially as warmer water (which is desirable for ich treatment) retains less oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 6:34 PM, Colu said: Yes you can treat for longer than 14days with ick x I’ve spotted one white dot on my platy that as tiny as ich but not raised like ich cyst. It’s more on flat white dot. Correct me if I’m wrong but ich are supposed to be like white bumps on skin right? It’s hard to take a picture of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 He how you tell ich from Epistylis they are often mistaken for each other 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Thanks for all the info you provided. I’m just really worried that something might go south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 2:59 PM, Colu said: He how you tell ich from Epistylis they are often mistaken for each other What if my fish also have gill/skin flukes? Whenever I buy new fish, I always suspect that they carry these parasites. What are the early signs of fish infected with fluke and what should I do? My fish are still flashing and clamping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Some of the symptoms of Gill flukes is clamped fins increase in mucus covering the body rapid breathing and flashings you can get flashing with ich when it's on the gills if you think you have gill flukes the best treatment for gill flukes is paracleanse or general cure I would add to they food then you can keep treating with ick x to cover all bases he a food recipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 6:52 PM, Colu said: Some of the symptoms of Gill flukes is clamped fins increase in mucus covering the body rapid breathing and flashings you can get flashing with ich when it's on the gills if you think you have gill flukes the best treatment for gill flukes is paracleanse or general cure I would add to they food then you can keep treating with ick x to cover all bases he a food recipe I think I’m cleared with ich now(fingers crossed)since the one I mentioned to you yesterday turned out to be not ich. I’ve been treating them with ich-x for 9 days already so I think I can stop now. But they are still flashing and clamping so I think something else needs to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 You could still have ich on the gills I can't say for sure that what's going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 7:28 PM, Colu said: You could still have ich on the gills I can't say for sure that what's going on Don’t you think it’s safe now? It’s been 4 days since the last white spot spotted and at 82°F temp. I hope they were eliminated already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 What you could do is starting treating with paracleanse one of the active ingredient is metronidazole that also treats ich but it's not very effective at treating ich compared to ick x or API super ick cure that would treat any suspected Gill flukes and it will have a secondary affect on any possible remaining ich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 7:44 PM, Colu said: What you could do is starting treating with paracleanse one of the active ingredient is metronidazole that also treats ich but it's not very effective at treating ich compared to ick x or API super ick cure that would treat any suspected Gill flukes and it will have a secondary affect on any possible remaining ich Can I just dump ParaCleanse in the water than medicating the food? I don’t have Seachem Focus and some other ingredients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) If your not dosing ick x you can just dose the water column Edited November 28, 2021 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) On 11/27/2021 at 8:01 PM, Colu said: If you not dosing is ick x I would just dose the water column Thanks a lot to all the tips! Wish me luck! Edited November 28, 2021 by DamnKid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 8:01 PM, Colu said: If your not dosing ick x you can just dose the water column I got another question. During the cyst stage(white spot) attached to the fish. How long would it take to white spot to fall off to the bottom at 82F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 1:01 PM, DamnKid said: How long would it take to white spot to fall off to the bottom at 82F? I think it's about 4 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnKid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) On 11/28/2021 at 8:57 AM, Colu said: I think it's about 4 days I know the picture quality is not the best but, this one looks ich right? Only one spot. Edited November 28, 2021 by DamnKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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