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    UV Sterilizers

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    Posted · Edited by Stella

    @Guppysnail Thank you!  You are not butting in at all. I appreciate everyone’s suggestions! How long did the hospital say that it took the lysol to kill the bacteria?  Also are we talking the aerosol lysol or the all purpose liquid cleaner?

    Would a dip in potassium permanganate kill the Myco bacteria?

    UV Sterilizers

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    On 6/26/2021 at 7:06 AM, ARMYVET said:

    Yeah I think If I suffered a catastrophic loss like the one being described....I would sterilize everything just for my own peace of mind going on the theory that it cant hurt....LOL

    I will sterilize everything if I lose them all. I plan to clean with bleach or lysol and then let everything dry out for a month or more. I’ll also throw substrates and filters away.  Hopefully that will take care of anything going on in there.  Will I need to toss my live plants?  Also can I salvage my driftwood by baking and boiling?

    UV Sterilizers

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    On 6/25/2021 at 11:26 PM, tonyjuliano said:

    Etc.

    From your recounting if the details, it would seem that a full on infection by Mycobacterium is exactly what is going on.  
    You need to quarantine all who have had ANY prior contact, treat and hope for the best - but expect the worst.

    😢  That's what I as afraid of.  Everyone that has been exposed are either in the qt tank, or the sorority tank.  I have 7 female bettas that live together in a 30 gallon tank (they are the only occupants).  I hate the thought of losing those 7.  I just got back in to the fish keeping hobby, and they were the first fish I got.  This entire ordeal has been very disheartening. 

    UV Sterilizers

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    On 6/25/2021 at 11:13 PM, tonyjuliano said:

    Yes, in a limited sense.  First, let’s clarify some misconceptions…

    First… The term “Fish TB” is a misnomer, fish do not contract tuberculosis.  They are, however, at risk of infection by “Mycobacterium”.  

    Under normal circumstances a healthy immune system fights potential serious infection without even being apparent.  But when a fish’s immune system is compromised, a full on infection is possible.

    Second…. Contrary to popular belief, exposure to UV radiation does not “kill” (or even deactivate) any microorganism.  What is does is render said pathogens (or non pathogens) unable to reproduce.  Also, only organism directed into the UV chamber will be affected.

    It’s not going to have any affect on the pathogen that is already residing in the fish itself.  Those are free to do their damage, and reproduce inside the host without interference.

    What it will do is reduce the numbers that come into contact with the light (the pathogens without an existing host, who are living in the water column).

    Reducing the number can help by limiting introduction of new bacteria to an already infected population.

    If the fish can fight off the existing  internal infection kn it’s own, then the chance for reinfection is reduced.

    So, yes, it can be a benefit, but as you should surmise, not a big one.

     

     

    Thank you!  My other thought on reducing the number of bacteria that are free floating is to minimize the risk to myself.  I know that this bacteria is zoonotic, and wanted to take all precautions just in case.   

    UV Sterilizers

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    Correct, it won't cure the fish that potentially have it now, but would the sterilizer prevent the bacteria from being free floating in the water?  Lets say I got a few new fish (hypothetically) would it keep them from becoming infected.

    I've lost 6 fish so far, and for a little background on them.  They were all female bettas that I had acquired from the same breeder and the same shipment within the last 1.5 months.  All of them were in quarantine in 2 separate tanks, but unfortunately I had recently taken 2 out of qt and put them in the sorority tank. 

    • The first one I lost was soon after receiving - she an injury that had some fungus I cleared that up - Then she got dropsy after the fungus had cleared, and passed within a couple of days.
    • The second betta I lost had dropsy
    • The third, & fourth just stopped eating 
    • The fifth was fine one day and dead the next no symptoms
    • The sixth looked to have a cut or something on her side - I removed her from the tank and put her back in a qt tank and treated with antibiotics, but the cut turned in to a gaping wound and she only lived a couple of days.  This one I'm pretty sure was an injury in the tank, as I found a sharp piece of slate exposed.  It has now been covered.

    UV Sterilizers

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    What is everyone's thoughts on UV sterilizers for killing aquarium bacteria, especially Fish TB.  I have a tank that I've had some unexplained losses, and I'm wondering if the tank has somehow picked up Fish TB.  Will the UV sterilizer help at all?  If they will help what size bulb would need to be used to be effective?  

    Thanks!!

    Velvet on Betta

    in Diseases

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    I'm sorry I can't get a better picture of her.  She will not stay still for anything lol.  I haven't noticed any of them flashing or really acting abnormally other than one, and she's not showing any outward signs of anything,  She's just being more lethargic than normal.  The coloring I'm seeing on her head may be just her color.  She has changed color so much in the last few months. (she used to be blue and white)

    Velvet on Betta

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    The fish I'm concerned about is the dark blue one.  She is acting perfectly fine, eating normally, but she has the missing scales, and the gold look to her head.  I have another one in that tank that is acting unusually lethargic, and not eating, but she doesn't appear to have any outward signs of anything.  I think I'm going to take her out and put her in a hospital tank.

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    Velvet on Betta

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    I have a betta sorority consisting of 9 female bettas and 1 very small bristlenose pleco in a 29 gallon tank.  I had noticed that one of the girls had some missing scales, but thought maybe she had been in a scuffle.  Today though I she looks like she has gold dust on her head, and am thinking she has velvet.  Will I need to treat the entire tank with Ich-X?  I do have some plants, and the bristlenose I'm concerned about.  Any help or advice anyone has would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!!

    Tank Parameters

    78 degrees, Ammonia & Nitrite 0, Nitrates approx 40-80 (its hard to tell the colors apart)

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