vinny Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) So I’m going to setup a 40 gal tank in about a year when I save up enough money. I’m only 14 and I cut grass for money so I can spend it on fish tanks and basketball shoes 🙃. I have about $100 rn but that’s not enough to start. My stocking plan rn is CENTERPIECE FISH pair of Apistogramma cacatuoides MID LEVEL SCHOOLING FISH 10-12 Cardinal Tetras 10-12 green neon tetras 8 emperor tetras or 8 lemon tetras 8 black phantom tetras BOTTOM DWELLERS 6 panda corydoras 6 Julii corydoras CLEANUP CREW 6-8 otos its going to have lots of plants and some leaf litter for the corydoras to hide in the temperature will probably be 78-80 degrees Fahrenheit ph is 6.5 is this ok and is the stocking ok as well and do you think I could switch or add something else? Edited July 5 by vinny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabdewulf Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Okay, watch for the half off tank sale from Petco to get your tank. That stocking list is a bit much in the sense you might have to do a lot of water changes. If you want less work, you might think about just one group of tetras, corys, and the otos. The Apitos may snack on the tetras if too small. Also, think about when you add fish to add a group at a time. I'm going to give you a tool you can play with: AqAdvisor - Intelligent Freshwater Tropical Fish Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor What this site is good for is matching ph and temp for fish but don't take it's stocking space at 100% true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 Thank you how often would I have to do water changes with my plan besides the emperor tetras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) On 7/5/2024 at 6:38 AM, vinny said: So I’m going to setup a 40 gal tank in about a year when I save up enough money. I’m only 14 and I cut grass for money so I can spend it on fish tanks and basketball shoes 🙃. I have about $100 rn but that’s not enough to start. My stocking plan rn is CENTERPIECE FISH pair of Apistogramma cacatuoides MID LEVEL SCHOOLING FISH 10-12 Cardinal Tetras 10-12 green neon tetras 8 emperor tetras or 8 lemon tetras 8 black phantom tetras BOTTOM DWELLERS 6 panda corydoras 6 Julii corydoras CLEANUP CREW 6-8 otos its going to have lots of plants and some leaf litter for the corydoras to hide in the temperature will probably be 78-80 degrees Fahrenheit ph is 6.5 is this ok and is the stocking ok as well and do you think I could switch or add something else? Welcome to the forum Vinny! Your selection of Amazon species are great. If it was choice I would select the Cardinal, Lemon, and Green neon tetras. Also would wait for the aquarium to mature a little before adding the Otto's. @vinny Edited July 5 by Tlindsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 Ok thank you and why are the otos weak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) On 7/5/2024 at 7:54 AM, vinny said: Ok thank you and why are the otos weak? Not that their weak but need a reliable food source biofilm, algae. Prepared foods are ok but I personally would add them last. @vinny On 7/5/2024 at 7:58 AM, Tlindsey said: Not that their week but need a reliable food source biofilm, algae. Prepared foods are ok but I personally would add them last. @vinny Edited July 5 by Tlindsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 7:58 AM, Tlindsey said: Not that their week but need a reliable food source biofilm, algae. Prepared foods are ok but I personally would add them last. @vinny So what should the order of fish I add in with my stocking being apistogrammi green neon tetra lemon tetra corydoras otos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabdewulf Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Water changes are sliding scale that changes until the tank settles. The general idea is add a group of fish, wait a week, test the water, water change what's apprioate, and then add the next fish group. You might find at some point that even every couple day water changes isn't worth the large number of fish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:01 AM, gabdewulf said: Water changes are sliding scale that changes until the tank settles. The general idea is add a group of fish, wait a week, test the water, water change what's apprioate, and then add the next fish group. You might find at some point that even every couple day water changes isn't worth the large number of fish. Oh ok so it might be overwhelming for once a week with so many fish. So stick to two species of tetras 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) On 7/5/2024 at 7:59 AM, vinny said: So what should the order of fish I add in with my stocking being apistogrammi green neon tetra lemon tetra corydoras otos 1:Green neon tetra 2:lemon 3:apistogramma 4:corydoras 5:otto's @vinny Edited July 5 by Tlindsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:05 AM, Tlindsey said: 1:Green neon tetra 2:lemon 3:apistogramma 4:corydoras 5:otto's @vinny Ok thank you by chance could I add a bigger canister filter and add black phantom tetras bc I really love those fish. On 7/5/2024 at 8:01 AM, gabdewulf said: Water changes are sliding scale that changes until the tank settles. The general idea is add a group of fish, wait a week, test the water, water change what's apprioate, and then add the next fish group. You might find at some point that even every couple day water changes isn't worth the large number of fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:07 AM, vinny said: Ok thank you by chance could I add a bigger canister filter and add black phantom tetras bc I really love those fish. It's not just about filtration you will also have to be consistent with appropriate water changes. I should have asked you this first. How do you plan on cycling the aquarium? Fishless or Fish in? I suggest fishless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:14 AM, Tlindsey said: It's not just about filtration you will also have to be consistent with appropriate water changes. I should have asked you this first. How do you plan on cycling the aquarium? Fishless or Fish in? I suggest fishless. 100% fish less. I have a 10 gallon tank rn that I have had for a year with a honey gourami green neon tetras and panda Cory’s. And I cycled it by using Seachem prime and stability for 1 week. On 7/5/2024 at 8:16 AM, vinny said: 100% fish less. I have a 10 gallon tank rn that I have had for a year with a honey gourami green neon tetras and panda Cory’s. And I cycled it by using Seachem prime and stability for 1 week. And also I did the stocking website thing and with my original thing it say 35% every week. and 93% stocking levels. Is aqua advisory a good source or no? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:16 AM, vinny said: 100% fish less. I have a 10 gallon tank rn that I have had for a year with a honey gourami green neon tetras and panda Cory’s. And I cycled it by using Seachem prime and stability for 1 week. When I start up a new aquarium I toss in seeded biomedia from my sump to Jumpstart the cycle depending on the size of the aquarium. @vinny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:22 AM, Tlindsey said: When I start up a new aquarium I toss in seeded biomedia from my sump to Jumpstart the cycle depending on the size of the aquarium. @vinny Do you have multiple tanks? I only have one which is my 10 gallon honey gourami community tank. The gourami name is pickles. My little sister named him. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:24 AM, vinny said: Do you have multiple tanks? I only have one which is my 10 gallon honey gourami community tank. The gourami name is pickles. My little sister named him. Yes I have 5 aquariums running. @vinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:26 AM, Tlindsey said: Yes I have 5 aquariums running. @vinny What are sizes and stocking in them? I wish I had 5 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:27 AM, vinny said: What are sizes and stocking in them? I wish I had 5 😂😂 I got a feeling you are going to have more than 5 😄 @vinny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:30 AM, Tlindsey said: I got a feeling you are going to have more than 5 😄 @vinny Hopefully I’m only 14 so not anytime soon prob max 2-3. But one can wish 🙃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:27 AM, vinny said: What are sizes and stocking in them? I wish I had 5 😂😂 180 gal. Polypterus a couple of cichlids and a silver dollar. 55 gal. 3 Senegal bichir, 3 Convict cichlid, and a Raphael catfish. 40 gal. A pair freshwater pipefish 6 cherry shrimp, and 1ghost shrimp. 2 20 gallon long 1 amazon bumblebee catfish, and 1 banjo catfish. The other has 6 white cloud mountain minnows in it. @vinny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:39 AM, Tlindsey said: 180 gal. Polypterus a couple of cichlids and a silver dollar. 55 gal. 3 Senegal bichir, 3 Convict cichlid, and a Raphael catfish. 40 gal. A pair freshwater pipefish 6 cherry shrimp, and 1ghost shrimp. 2 20 gallon long 1 amazon bumblebee catfish, and 1 banjo catfish. The other has 6 white cloud mountain minnows in it. @vinny Oh my half of these fish I’ve never heard of by a silver dollar is one nice fish. Want to get one when I’m older. Do you have a fish room or just spread around your house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:40 AM, vinny said: Oh my half of these fish I’ve never heard of by a silver dollar is one nice fish. Want to get one when I’m older. Do you have a fish room or just spread around your house? 180gal in the basement the other aquariums in the family room. My wife won't let me use anymore rooms for aquariums 😆 @vinny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:45 AM, Tlindsey said: 180gal in the basement the other aquariums in the family room. My wife won't let me use anymore rooms for aquariums 😆 @vinny lol that’s still sweet I’m gonna rescale my ten gal soon and make it a south East Asian biotope with pickles my gourami Kuhlis loaches and chili rasboras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlindsey Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:46 AM, vinny said: lol that’s still sweet I’m gonna rescale my ten gal soon and make it a south East Asian biotope with pickles my gourami Kuhlis loaches and chili rasboras That's awesome. @vinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 On 7/5/2024 at 8:48 AM, Tlindsey said: That's awesome. @vinny And prob my last question for you. How long can nano fish last without food? I’m going to NYC in a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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