JE47 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I have just received a pair of Betta Mandor a rarer species of the betta family and in receiving them I have decided to create a journal where I can document everything I notice or experience in keeping them. This also stems from being unable to find much of anything in the way of personal experience bout caring for this beautiful fish in captivity. Hopefully this is helpful to anyone wanting to keep wild bettas or just wanting to know more about this species. Their current parameters are a ph of 6.5, 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrate, and 10 Nitrite, temp 85 F. After acclimating the pair both began exploring their new home with both sticking close to each other understandably. While exploring the tank both attempted to eat random things the male made several attempts to eat a snail and the female tried to eat a leaf of dwarf sag. I did a first feeding of frozen bloodworms by taking a single worm in a set of planting tweezers and wiggling it around in the water the fish then quickly came and after a first sample ate quite a few worms. For appearance both male and female after two hours of acclimating had a coloring of a very light milk chocolate no visible gold or red bars on their cheek area. The male does have a blue iridescence color on the edges of all his fins with both fish having a iridescent blue rim on their eyes. At two and half hours after acclimating faint gold bars have started to appear. Eight hours of acclimating the gold bars on both male and female cheeks has become pronounced with a faint black color appearing on the edges of the male's fins just under the blue band. Last thing for this post I have seen the bettas "yawn" opening their big mouths they look very cute when they do it. Will post an update soon with pics! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 Day Two Second day of having these betta in my possession and I think I might need to buy a breeder box or some more hiding places. Let me explain I have been watching the fish today and the male seems to be consistently chasing the female she doesn't seem to have taken any damage but will keep a close eye on his aggression. The theory I have is that the male might be holding eggs not that I have seen them spawning but today the male has constantly been expanding and contracting his cheek pouches so... Eggs? Other than that they are still doing well. I will snag some pics and videos later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) I've never heard of this species! That's really cool! Do you have a second tank you can move the female to so he can get a break? I've heard of females starving males because they don't give them enough time to get conditioned after a brood hatches. Separating her out may also make it easier to raise the fry. I'm really interested in how this goes. See if you can get some pictures Edited June 6 by Schuyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Thanks for the advice @Schuyler I do have another tank I could move her to. I actually don't think there's eggs yet I just need to create more hiding spots for the both of them. They are definitely giving me an excuse to buy some new toys... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 (edited) Had some time today to get a few pics of the male he has just started to develop these deep ruby red bars on his cheeks they show up okay in the pics. His fins have also developed more of black rim and the blue he does have has started to become more iridescent. The female I will try to upload some pictures tomorrow has had her gold bars on her cheeks become more shimmery and has developed dark brown vertical lines across her body. The male has also started to put together that when I come close to the tank he is most likely going to get food 😂 Sorry for the bad photo quality will try to get better one tomorrow. Edited June 11 by JE47 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 How shy are they? Do they come out to beg for food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 (edited) The female tends to hide much more than the male but both can be difficult to spot because their brown bodies blend in so well with the all the brown wood. The male will tend to come out an beg for food when I approach the tank and he is not afraid to take the bloodworms from the tweezers. Again the female is more shy and will not come out as readily to feed. Edited June 12 by JE47 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 Here is a video link to a video I took of the male chasing the female Sorry for the bad video quality the shaky camera, and the loud air pump in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 6/16/2024 at 11:53 AM, JE47 said: Here is a video link to a video I took of the male chasing the female Sorry for the bad video quality the shaky camera, and the loud air pump in the background. Do you think it may be too bright for them? Have you consider adding some floating plants or other stuff for them to hide under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 I do have floating plants in there they are taking a second to fill in. Yes, the light is a little bright for them I have since turned it down to the lowest it can go and added more hiding spots. I had to order more decor for them to hide under and in but the package took its sweet time in getting to me. Thanks for the advice! 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted Saturday at 07:24 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 07:24 PM (edited) Well in the end both male and female needed separation from each other thankfully I had another tank available for such a case. Most available articles state you can keep male and female together however I have not found this to be true. Even after adding several handfuls of java moss I have been growing out and four new caves creating many hiding spots which the female did use I realized keeping them together would not be an option. The front part of my tank has an open swimming area which the male would constantly swim in and when the female tried to use the same space he would chase her until she vanished into a hiding spot. Until all the female did was hide not even at feeding time he would chase her away from the food. I felt that I need to help her and step in. After separating them the female has started to make regular appearances to the front of the tank and seems much more relaxed not to mention able to eat with out being chased. I don't know if the male appreciates it or not but it wasn't for his sake the the separation had to happen. I will put them back together for breeding purposes but not in a permanent housing setting. I will say that though the male chased the female constantly he did not nip her fins or cause her any physical harm. I would give this warning to other people wanting to keep this species that while you can put male and female together keep an eye on them and have an extra tank handy that you can separate them into. Now for the fun part some photos I was able to snap yesterday. Edited Saturday at 07:29 PM by JE47 Writing to fast causes word typos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted Saturday at 08:36 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 08:36 PM I did forget to mention that my male loves to play in bubble stream comes up from my sponge filters. My female won't go near the bubble stream but he likes to dive into the stream get carried up and then come back down. It's quite amusing to watch 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted Saturday at 09:26 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:26 PM Are you going to try conditioning her and introducing her bring them back together? Or were you not really looking to try and breed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted Saturday at 10:38 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:38 PM Yes, the goal would be to breed them but I will attempt that in about a month. I am taking a two week trip soon and as much as I love my family I don't want them to have the task of feeding and ensuring the fry survival if I am succesful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted Tuesday at 07:07 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 07:07 PM There is nothing super exciting to report for the fish right now except that I continue to feed them frozen bloodworms, live daphnia, and soon live bbs. I bought the co-op's brine shrimp hatchery but needed an airpump which should hopefully arrive by Thursday. Then I probably hatch some and get a feeding video or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricksonAquatics Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM Wow, they really colored up! That male looks stunning😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted Tuesday at 08:08 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 08:08 PM Thank you the male is truly stunning! I love having both of them they are very cute especially when they yawn 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted yesterday at 01:57 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:57 AM You could put it a small bucket of aquarium water to collect mosquito larvae for them. Some killi breeders swear by them for conditioning females. Plus you get to have revenge for all those itchy bites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE47 Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM That's a great idea thanks 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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