Leo2o915 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Want to get into shell dwellers debating the perfect set up and whatās the most entertaining one to breed and enjoy! Any advice would be appreciated it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 @Leo2o915Ā I have a 40 breeder with Neolamprologus Multifasciata and another 40 breeder with Neolamprologus Similis. Thereās a million ways to house them, however understand they are going to rearrange everything to however they please. Then theyāll do it again. With that in mind, I use pool filter sand. Decor are a few river rocks with some anubias attached to them. Obviously both species has a ton of shells. I believe I added about 50 or so to each setup. I usually use ACO sponge filter to basically filter anything. However, with these guys, I wanted to maximize floor space so I went with an Aquaclear 70. Lighting can be basically anything. If the ACO light was out at the time, I would of definitely went with that. I started off with 8 of each colony. With some time and tons of BBS, youāll have a bunch of babies. If I had to pick between the 2, Iād go with the multies. They are the most entertaining fish Iāve ever had in my fish room because they do stuff with intention. Good luck.Ā 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOtrees Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Multis. 15 gallon or 20L to start. 10 can work, but you'll want bigger almost right away. Sand, rocks, maybe some rhizome plants on the rocks. Use the rocks, or potted plants, or sponge filter to help divide the floor space into territories (depending on tank size, and how many fish).Ā Make sure any rocks are pushed through the sand and touching the bottom glass, otherwise the fish will dig under the rock and they might shift.Ā Feed lots of tiny foods (bbs or other fry food) even if all you have is adults. This will promote babies if you don't have them, support babies if you have them but don't know it, or grow babies if you have them and do know it. š I've wondered if a 29gallon would give enough vertical space to include some cyps. Anyone know?Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo2o915 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 On 2/1/2023 at 9:20 AM, Mynameisnobody said: @Leo2o915Ā I have a 40 breeder with Neolamprologus Multifasciata and another 40 breeder with Neolamprologus Similis. Thereās a million ways to house them, however understand they are going to rearrange everything to however they please. Then theyāll do it again. With that in mind, I use pool filter sand. Decor are a few river rocks with some anubias attached to them. Obviously both species has a ton of shells. I believe I added about 50 or so to each setup. I usually use ACO sponge filter to basically filter anything. However, with these guys, I wanted to maximize floor space so I went with an Aquaclear 70. Lighting can be basically anything. If the ACO light was out at the time, I would have definitely went with that. I started off with 8 of each colony. With some time and tons of BBS, youāll have a bunch of babies. If I had to pick between the 2, Iād go with the multies. They are the most entertaining fish Iāve ever had in my fish room because they do stuff with intention. Good luck.Ā On 2/1/2023 at 9:20 AM, Mynameisnobody said: @Leo2o915Ā I have a 40 breeder with Neolamprologus Multifasciata and another 40 breeder with Neolamprologus Similis. Thereās a million ways to house them, however understand they are going to rearrange everything to however they please. Then theyāll do it again. With that in mind, I use pool filter sand. Decor are a few river rocks with some anubias attached to them. Obviously both species has a ton of shells. I believe I added about 50 or so to each setup. I usually use ACO sponge filter to basically filter anything. However, with these guys, I wanted to maximize floor space so I went with an Aquaclear 70. Lighting can be basically anything. If the ACO light was out at the time, I would of definitely went with that. I started off with 8 of each colony. With some time and tons of BBS, youāll have a bunch of babies. If I had to pick between the 2, Iād go with the multies. They are the most entertaining fish Iāve ever had in my fish room because they do stuff with intention. Good luck.Ā Awesome thanks saw those they look nice also loving the look of the gold occellatusĀ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 @Leo2o915Ā Gold Occellatus are beautiful, but not even close to the activity level of the multies. If you donāt want a ton of fry, go with the goldās. However, if you plan on building a colony with basically no interference on your end, then go multies.Ā You can house any of these species in 20 gallons and some even in 10ās, but the smallest aquarium Iād own is a 40 breeder. Too many variables in smaller aquariums, but that can be subjective.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo2o915 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 On 2/1/2023 at 11:25 AM, Mynameisnobody said: @Leo2o915Ā Gold Occellatus are beautiful, but not even close to the activity level of the multies. If you donāt want a ton of fry, go with the goldās. However, if you plan on building a colony with basically no interference on your end, then go multies.Ā You can house any of these species in 20 gallons and some even in 10ās, but the smallest aquarium Iād own is a 40 breeder. Too many variables in smaller aquariums, but that can be subjective.Ā Oh gotcha so what you think of theĀ Neolamprologus signatus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Honestly, I love all shell dwellers and even rock dwellers. They all have proās and conās. I know the coop has an article on their site on shellieās. I would definitely check it out. Also, primetime Aquatics put out a video ranking all the popular shell dwellers. Itāll answer all of your questions per species. Personally, I keep multies and similis because babies appear without my interjection and they are highly interactive with their environment. I do want to obtain a pair of gold Occelatus, but Iām not going to hold my breath on building a colony unless I take action. With a 15 month old little girl, itās getting harder and harder to do.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo2o915 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 On 2/1/2023 at 2:08 PM, Mynameisnobody said: Honestly, I love all shell dwellers and even rock dwellers. They all have proās and conās. I know the coop has an article on their site on shellieās. I would definitely check it out. Also, primetime Aquatics put out a video ranking all the popular shell dwellers. Itāll answer all of your questions per species. Personally, I keep multies and similis because babies appear without my interjection and they are highly interactive with their environment. I do want to obtain a pair of gold Occelatus, but Iām not going to hold my breath on building a colony unless I take action. With a 15 month old little girl, itās getting harder and harder to do.Ā Oh gotcha makes sense specially with a young one. Congrats on ur baby girlĀ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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