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On 3/3/2023 at 9:30 PM, nabokovfan87 said:
so you're diffusing it using both methods? Given the tank size it makes sense.
How does the drop checker usually look for you?It’s green. Not bright green but solid green.
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The 407 has 4 trays:
1) sponge
2) polyfil
3&4) bio rings
I do use a spraybar for my filter outlet and an inline diffuser for my CO2. I also have a ceramic diffuser inside the tank as well.
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On 3/3/2023 at 9:09 PM, nabokovfan87 said:
How often do you change water, how much, how is filtration setup, lighting setup?
I change water once a week. Sometimes 25%, sometimes 50%.
It’s a 75g tank with both an under gravel plenum as well as a Fluval 407 for filtration. I am also injecting CO2 and I have a Chihiros WRGB2 at 50% for my light.
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On 3/3/2023 at 9:04 PM, nabokovfan87 said:
Ultimately, it could be caused by too much phosphate in the water or excess nutrients. How new is the tank?
The tank has been set up for 4 months. It has gone through the diatom phase already since I did have diatoms all over and now they are gone.
I have a lot of green algae and also this dark brown algae as shown in the photo.
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Is there such a thing as brown algae that isn’t diatoms? I had diatoms in the tank before but it has all gone away months ago.
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On 3/2/2023 at 4:25 PM, knee said:
Have you tried rubbing it off? What's the texture like?
The S Repens leaves are so soft I haven’t been successful at rubbing any off.
My Panda Garra and hillstream loach also don’t touch it.
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It’s all over my S. Repens. If it’s an algae, I don’t recognize it. Does anyone know what this is?
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On 11/28/2022 at 8:51 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:
Very cool test strip kit.
Was there a card with the gH drop kit? I usually test gH with a strip; not familiar with how the drops work.
Cant really read the pH # from the photo. What was the pH? I know mystery snails need at least a 7 pH. Nerites may require similar @onlywei
There’s no card with the gH drop kit. It’s the API test kit. What you do is you add drops one by one until the water turns green instead of yellow. That is supposed to tell you your dGH.
The PH of my tap water is between 7.8 and 8.4. This specific tank has CO2 injection and Fluval stratum so that should have lowered my pH quite a bit. I would be quite flabbergasted if pH were the problem with the nerite snails, though. I see competition aquascapes with CO2 injection plus nerite snails all over the internet.
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On 11/20/2022 at 6:04 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:
Iron, Zinc, Lead, Aluminum, and others. Further reading here
I tested my water for GH and used a “Varify” brand strip to test other things.
I did three GH tests. The first test turned green after 6 drops. The second turned green after 5 drops, and the third turned green after 4 drops.
Iron, lead, copper, manganese, and zinc look like zero or very close to zero to me, but maybe someone can recognize those colors better than me?
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On 11/20/2022 at 8:19 AM, gardenman said:
"They don't last 24 hours." Are you sure they're dead? Nerite snails tend to play possum when moved and just lie there for days or longer. It's kind of hard to kill them within 24 hours with any "normal" water issues. And while dead snails do smell bad, it takes a while for that smell to develop. They don't die and smell bad ten minutes later. It can take hours for the decomposition to reach a point where the smell is significant. My gut suspicion is you're expecting them to move and when they don't you think they're dead when they're just playing possum. Now maybe they were shipped dead or died in transit, but my gut says your water plays the smallest factor in the equation.
They started moving immediately when I put them in the water. Then they stopped moving shortly after. One even fell off the glass it was trying to climb.
Will Ramshorn snails be affected in the same way as nerite snails by whatever is in my water? Maybe I can experiment with them by putting them in different water? I’m thinking the different waters will be:
1) my softened water that I have in my aquarium that has a wonder shell in it
2) my pre-softened water
3) my pre-softened water plus dechlorinator
4) my softened water plus equilibrium
5) my softened water plus dechlorinator
Pond/bladder snails seem to already survive fine in my softened water.
Is there any other water scenario I should test?
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On 11/20/2022 at 12:56 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:
Dechlorinators, depending on brand, will also remove heavy metals which are toxic to snails.
Besides Copper, what other heavy metals would we worry about?
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On 11/19/2022 at 5:44 PM, Mmiller2001 said:
Only to breed. With a slow transition down to brackish waters I assume.
I'll fall back on 0dGH. Have to have it for osmo regulation.
Might also check on just how much potassium chloride is going into the water. Do you dechlorinate your water?
I usually don’t dechlorinate. The reason is because I tested my water with strips from three different companies including Aquarium Co-op and they all resulted in zero free and total chlorine.
Additionally, I have this Boogie Pop filter attached to the hose that I use to fill up my aquariums: Boogie Blue Plus Garden Hose... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CCG9DF5?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I will test my GH when I get home to see exactly how much my wonder shell has impacted it so far. It looks like even after a few days, the majority of the shell has not yet dissolved.
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On 11/19/2022 at 4:50 PM, Mmiller2001 said:
Don't know, they don't list the ingredients. And think of it as a vitamin supplement. The water needs GH
And there's your salt source. Pretty sure that's swapping Ca and Mg with Na.
I don’t use salt in my water softener. I use potassium and it costs 6x the price.
Also, aren’t nerite snails brackish water creatures? Why would they be harmed by salt?
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On 11/19/2022 at 4:40 PM, Mmiller2001 said:
And to be doubly sure, do you have a water softener on your house?
Yes I do. Otherwise my water would be 14dGH
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On 11/19/2022 at 4:37 PM, Mmiller2001 said:
Wonder Shell isn't going to cut it. GH is both Calcium and magnesium, not just calcium. When you raise GH, don't lift it more than 1.5 degrees in 24 hours. I would shoot for 5 degrees.
Don’t wonder shells contain both calcium and magnesium?
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On 11/19/2022 at 2:48 PM, Mmiller2001 said:
Are the tanks new?
The bare bottom tank was around 4 months old when I added nerites.
The other two were 1 month old cycled using filter media from other tanks.
All had algae growing as well as fish and plants thriving.
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On 11/19/2022 at 2:35 PM, Mmiller2001 said:
What's the substrate and how old is it?
This current tank has a layer of baked clay cat litter, then a layer of Seachem Flourite, and finally a lot of Fluval Stratum on top.
Another tank has CaribSea Eco-Complete with Black Diamond blasting sand.
Another tank has no substrate at all.
Nerites died in all three tanks.
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On 11/19/2022 at 1:19 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:
What I usually do is float the Tupperware (I’m assuming the moist paper towel was in a Tupperware) with the moist paper towel in the tank for 15-30 min. Then I add a shotglass full of tank water to the Tupperware. I wait 15 min and then I do that again. Then I wait 15 min and put the snails in the tank.
some nerites take 2-3 days to move. Sniffing them will let you know if they are alive. Also for some reason nerites aren’t that great at rolling over if they are on their back, so try to place them with their opening down when they go into the tank.
@onlyweiThe moist paper towel was in a ziplock. I could have done what you said for acclimation, but its too late now 😞
I did put effort into positioning the snails so that they didn’t have to roll over. They all started moving immediately. They just stopped after an hour or two. One of them even managed to climb around 3 inches up the glass before falling down, and never got back up.
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On 11/18/2022 at 9:05 PM, eatyourpeas said:
How long has the tank been set up? I do not see algae in those photos, and if snails were starved (or not fed) before traveling, there may not be enough food to get them nourished and going after the journey.
Also, have you added any planaria treatment? That will kill snails.
Sorry about the losses. ☹️
There are so many diatoms that I had to use a toothbrush to remove most of it during a water change the day before. If it was a food issue, wouldn’t the snails first try to find food before dying? They couldn’t even move 6 inches…
Never added any planaria treatment.
On 11/19/2022 at 1:14 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:My very first thought is- how are you acclimating the snails? Do you float their bag and add tank water every 15 minutes? I do this for 45 min to 1 hr if I float acclimate. Most often I do a 1 hour drip acclimate though. They are just like fish; they can’t be just plopped in or they will go into shock.
The snails did not come in a bag of water. They came in a moist paper towel.
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Here are photos of the tank. I dropped the snails in the bottom right corner five hours ago, and I made sure they were upright. They barely crawled any distance at all. One has even fallen off the glass and can’t get back up.
On 11/18/2022 at 8:00 PM, Guppysnail said:Try adding a touch of equilibrium maybe your gh being zero might mean not enough of all the different minerals they need. That is a total guess but the only thing I see out of the ordinary.
My GH shouldn’t be zero anymore after adding a wonder shell though, right? Also GH being zero shouldn’t cause immediate death?
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On 11/18/2022 at 6:31 PM, nabokovfan87 said:
Salt?
What is going on with the tank in question, what's the full setup?On 11/18/2022 at 6:39 PM, Flumpweesel said:Some meds are deadly for snails (certainly anything that contains malachite green or methyl blue) so have you been treating the tanks at all recently ?
There are multiple tanks. All planted, none with salt nor meds (never added them ever). One has CO2 injection, the others don't.
On 11/18/2022 at 6:57 PM, Guppysnail said:As mentioned any med that has been used even if it has not been for quite awhile can harm snails. They can absorb into seals etc and slowly leak.
I have heard some meds linger once absorbed in things up to a year. I am not certain how true that is.What is you kh/gh/ph I do not think that would harm them right off the bat but if your sources were way different than yours and you just dropped them in that could be an issue They also do not appreciate really hot tanks.
Are the diatoms on plants or glass? Certain nerites each eat from different places my black racers only ever are on the glass etc
KH is 5, GH is close to zero, but this time I added a giant wonder shell a few days before adding the nerites. My tap water PH is between 7.8 and 8.2. The one tank with CO2 probably has a lower PH, the other tanks are probably still between 7.8 and 8.2. Temperature 76-78F. Nerites came in a moist paper towel, not in water.
The diatoms are on plants, rocks, wood, AND glass. But I don't think that matters since the nerites only move a maximum of 6 inches before they stop moving and eventually die.
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My nerite snails keep dying within 24 hours of adding to any of my tanks. I've gotten nerites from at least 4 different sources, this latest one from Aqua Huna.
All of my fish and plants are doing fine. There are also brown diatoms everywhere for the nerites to eat.
I tested copper using the API copper test kit, it came back 0ppm.
Does anyone know what else could cause nerite deaths?
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Update here: after the ParaCleanse treatment, things were good for about a month. Now the deaths have started again. I'm seeing 5-7 dead bodies every morning. Should I treat again using the same method?
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I don't really know of any centerpiece fish that wouldn't attempt to eat shrimp.
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Safe-t-sorb - lessons learned with pH, KH, and ammonia
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Is there any difference between the Tractor Supply Safe-T-Sorb vs the Oil-Dri Safe-T-Sorb?