WhitecloudDynasty Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Here's my breeding setup for my rainbow shiner 10gallon Sponge filter with a directional flow Temp at 70 Ph 7.3 ish This setup will only work if "she" is ready. It may take more than 1 try. I wouldn't leave them in their for more than 2 day, since the male can rub her side open. Separate the male and female. I start by pumping up my female with quality food/dry food for a few days to weeks. When she is fat with eggs, I'll place her with the male in a plant basket with a few good size rocks that night. Spongefilter flow will be pointed into the basket. They should spawn in the morning and be done soon after. I'll remove the parents and collect the eggs. I treat the eggs just like how you'll do for rainbow eggs. The whole idea is to have a setup where the parent have no chance of touching the eggs. In the wild theyll be swimming upstream and when they spawn the egg is blow downstream immediately. In a home aquarium most hobbies will breed them in large group so the fish that aren't breeding is eating the eggs. Edited September 25, 2020 by WhitecloudDynasty 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Bred over 400 fish and culled almost half These are farm stock and they carry deformity. Such a shame for a native fish to have this much deformity being in the fish trade. Top photo..top 2 was cull due to having a short face Bottom phot..top female was kept and bottom female was culled I didn't notice at first but alot of the fry had weak dorsal which came from one of the breeding female. She won't be breeding for me next year. bottom photo..the bad female is at the bottom with a weak dorsal. On top of her is a older female for comparison 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan S. Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Thanks for sharing. I have a group of 9 that I want to breed - 4 males and 5 females. Right now, they are all together. To breed them as you suggest do you recommend keeping the males and females in separate tanks and then adding a pair to the breeding tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Blake Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I'm still waiting to grow out my group to sex them and breed them. I have them in a 300 gallon at the moment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Ryan S. said: Thanks for sharing. I have a group of 9 that I want to breed - 4 males and 5 females. Right now, they are all together. To breed them as you suggest do you recommend keeping the males and females in separate tanks and then adding a pair to the breeding tank? Yes, the reason I keep them separated is so the female have a chance to build up more eggs, if you don't separate them they'll still spawn but your yeid will be low. Plus they can and will spawn on days you aren't ready for them too, like in the main aquarium. After one or two try the male will pick up really quick on why they are in the breeding box, so its up to the female if she is ready to drop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Decided to put the breeder back together yesterday. No luck, the females wasn't ready so I pull the fish back out the next day Here's the male half way turn off since I put them in this glass container 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTill Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Very responsible to keep only the properly formed ones, nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AdamTill said: Very responsible to keep only the properly formed ones, nice job Yes as a breeder that my responsibility, and every generation after that. Edited December 21, 2020 by WhitecloudDynasty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Just wanted to show what will happen when bred over rocks. The eggs are shot down bounce on the rock and the parent and other fish eats most of the eggs. Lost more than half. P.s. my kids was watching amine in the other room Edited February 21, 2021 by WhitecloudDynasty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanTruth Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 That is some really cool spawning footage! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 A quick sloppy video i made about raising the eggs up..hope it helps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Here's a photo of father and son. Father is now 4 year old, and not look good anymore. They don't get to live this long in the wild, so their body isn't made to survive this long. Son is turning 2 this year and have great conformation, alot of blue running on the side of his body. Main goal is to have these fish color up sooner in their life and show more color when "turn off/not breeding mode". I'm getting there, females started to look great and showing alot of blue. Only problem with all these colorful female, its getting harder and harder to sex every year...lol 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timQ Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 When do rainbow shiners go into spawning mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 3:24 PM, Mako13 said: When do rainbow shiners go into spawning mode? When the female are ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Sat down today and did 2 hour worth of culling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Looks awesome! Well done. Thanks for the good work you do with your fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC Aquatic Biotope Creati Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Hey so I have a clutch of rainbow shiner eggs that are now 2 days old and have that "fluffy " look. I was wondering when I should start feeding them. It was a little unclear from your video but seems like around day 8? Is that correct? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 9:34 PM, ABC Aquatic Biotope Creati said: Hey so I have a clutch of rainbow shiner eggs that are now 2 days old and have that "fluffy " look. I was wondering when I should start feeding them. It was a little unclear from your video but seems like around day 8? Is that correct? Thanks Ok the egg will get fluffy..spray water in or pour water in to spread the egg around. The should still hatch. If you don't free them up they could all hatch in that clump and get stuck and die. Feed them when they are free swimming whatever that day is for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axolo Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Hello, I was wondering, are there special conditions, like temperature / light duration, to get the fish into spawning mode ? I am keeping my fish rainbow shiners in my fish room, wich gets no natural light, and while they grow and seem to be happy/gravid, they do not get into a mating mood. (the fish are almost 1.5 years old now) The temperature is arround 24° (the aquarium is not heated), and the (led) lights are on for 15h /day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 2:22 PM, Axolo said: Hello, I was wondering, are there special conditions, like temperature / light duration, to get the fish into spawning mode ? I am keeping my fish rainbow shiners in my fish room, wich gets no natural light, and while they grow and seem to be happy/gravid, they do not get into a mating mood. (the fish are almost 1.5 years old now) The temperature is arround 24° (the aquarium is not heated), and the (led) lights are on for 15h /day. Try feeding food with a bit more protein and fat and doing heavy water change 2022 first set going outside 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axolo Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Thanks for the reply, I tried to follow your guidelines the last weeks, feeding them only live food (Artemia Nauplii & Musquito Larvae), and changing 50% of the water weekly, but it makes no difference :-(. Maybe i need to be more patient... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 10:50 AM, Axolo said: Thanks for the reply, I tried to follow your guidelines the last weeks, feeding them only live food (Artemia Nauplii & Musquito Larvae), and changing 50% of the water weekly, but it makes no difference :-(. Maybe i need to be more patient... Yea I would wait longer..I normally prep my female weeks before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axolo Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Nope, a month of intensive feeding did not trigger them to get fired up, most days there are fed 3x a day (2x with live foods / 1x flakes). I also did some heavy wather changes with rainwater, but that only got the cory's going again :-(. Are your fish all year round fired up/ breeding, I'm still unsure on how to trigger them to get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 1:35 PM, Axolo said: Nope, a month of intensive feeding did not trigger them to get fired up, most days there are fed 3x a day (2x with live foods / 1x flakes). I also did some heavy wather changes with rainwater, but that only got the cory's going again :-(. Are your fish all year round fired up/ breeding, I'm still unsure on how to trigger them to get to that point. My line breed earlier than normal, do you have a photo of your fish? And setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Young fish have been spawn regularly. Since they are so young they havent pick up the dark red body. A close up on the eggs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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