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So I recently set up a 20 gallon planted tank aquascape (picture attached). Plants are starting to fill in (there is a large group of various Rotala species to the left that you can't really see) and so far I have 10 Amano shrimp in there and 4 otocinclus. When I was working on the hardscape I ended up creating two caves.  When trying to think of what to put in the tank I was doing research and found that Apistogrammas would appreciate a cave. 

I was specifically looking at either a pair of Agassizzii, Macmasteri or Viejita. I've never kept a Apistogrammas before but looking for opinions of those that have. Will these make dinner out of my Amanos or is this one of those depends on the individual fish situations?  

I don't mind if the Amano shrimp are more stealth to hide from the Apistos but I don't want them living in fear and ultimately they are there to eat algae which they won't do a great job of if they are constantly hiding.  So do I have a shot with the Apistos or should I move on and try something like a school of Celestial Pearl Danios instead?  

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This is beautiful! Wow, well done! Can't wait to see how it grow in too. Love Apistos . . . but they'll hide a lot. I'm not sure they'd be amino-shrimp-safe. As you describe, they'll be aggressive at times, and things won't function properly. Big YES! to the school of Celestial Pearls Danios. But what for a keynote, feature fish? Hmm . . . 

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Depending on your locale, you may be able to find other betta species that are kinder and a bit more shy. They from what I have seen of others tanks, like to hide often and only come out when they fully trust their owner.

 

I have always had a soft spot for Betta macrostoma and Betta albimarginata. Bettas other than Betta splendens are rare, so if you live in a place without a LFS you may be out of luck. 

 

Bonus betta species Betta foerschi if you want a more subdued "centerpiece" since pearl danios tend to steal the show from all but the most impressive species of fish.

 

Be prepared to pay anywhere from $30-$125 for these bettas

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@Fish Folk thanks!  Currently running without a lid at the moment. I may add one, I may not. Right now it's definitely easier without as I'm doing minor maintenance almost daily since the tank is only a little over 3 weeks old.  Those Rainbow shiners are really cool looking. Appreciate all the suggestions!

@Biotope Biologist one of the LFS here actually does get in some pretty interesting stuff. I'll have to ask him about the different Betta species as I know he stocks quite a few things that you wouldn't normally see. 

 

I may end up going with the Celestial Pearl Danios. Then I can run the tank on the cooler side to keep algae at bay. This is my first aquascape and am running CO2 still learning a lot as I go.  This is my first time keeping Otos and they are such fun little guys. The tank is right next to my desk in my home office and I've enjoyed watching them swim around all day. Here's a pick of one enjoying a little relaxation in the Rotala forest. Thanks again!

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I would think a betta would be as aggressive as an apisto with regards to shrimps. I know the female i have will eat anything it can catch. I have apisto but haven't tried mixing them with shrimps (and different species of apisto are more aggressive than other species) so i can't really provide any insight but i will note that all my females (I have 3 species) are some what more active hunters than males.

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3 hours ago, AquaAggie said:

I have an apisto in a community tank. It has Amano shrimp and they do fine. He also is not shy at all and completely ignores the cave I built for him specifically. 

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You have a male cockatoo. It is important to state the species and sex since apisto comprise of more than 100 species and frequently male and female behavior are very different.

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btw nice tank.

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11 hours ago, anewbie said:

I would think a betta would be as aggressive as an apisto with regards to shrimps. I know the female i have will eat anything it can catch. I have apisto but haven't tried mixing them with shrimps (and different species of apisto are more aggressive than other species) so i can't really provide any insight but i will note that all my females (I have 3 species) are some what more active hunters than males.

The Betta splendens seem to be the only "aggressive" species out of that genus. Whether or not that is because they were bred that way is up for debate. The above mentioned Betta species are very timid. Especially Betta albimarginata. 

 

But these are all just suggestions at the end of the day it's not our aquascape. To answer the question though even though dwarf cichlids are tamer than some of their larger counterparts they just never seem to do well with delicate species. I shouldn't say never it depends on the personality of the fish. 

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