LillyBlomqvist Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hello nerms! I'm starting a shallow open top tank in my bathroom. It'll have a lot of live plants, both submerged, emerged and floating. An aquascape, aiming for low maintainance. It'll be a 10 gallon/40 liter tank, no heater only room temperature. Will have a filter, will also have the surface an inch or so below the edge. My first thought was to not have any fish in it, but hey, fish are always more fun if it's possible! I can't stop thinking about these rainbow shiners. SO BEAUTIFUL! 😌 Do you guys think that it would be possible to have some of them in this tank? Or are they jumpers? If they are'nt a good choice, would Galaxy rasbora, shrimps or snails work? Some kind of algae eater? Something else that would work and thrive in it? Thank you, and happy new year! 😁🎉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Matt Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 @WhitecloudDynasty could probably tell you. A word of caution. Be careful what you spray to clean your bathroom. I have accidently killed fish cleaning with a bleach based solution in the vicinity of a no-top tank. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 They won't normally jump out, the only time I seen them jump was when I lower the water lv down to 2inch and was adding water to it. I sure your setup should be fine for the rainbow shiner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Dancing Matt said: @WhitecloudDynasty could probably tell you. A word of caution. Be careful what you spray to clean your bathroom. I have accidently killed fish cleaning with a bleach based solution in the vicinity of a no-top tank. Thank you! I'll keep that in mind when cleaning, to perhaps spray on the cloth away from the tank instead of directly on the surfaces next to the tank 😁 3 hours ago, WhitecloudDynasty said: They won't normally jump out, the only time I seen them jump was when I lower the water lv down to 2inch and was adding water to it. I sure your setup should be fine for the rainbow shiner Thank you for your answer! That sounds promising 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 rainbow shiners get 3in i think you be better going something smaller in a ten gallon like endlers or small tetras 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/2/2021 at 1:27 AM, Colu said: rainbow shiners get 3in i think you be better going something smaller in a ten gallon like endlers or small tetras Thank you! I recently realized that I was mixing up a couple of fish. I imagined that the rainbows were smaller and I also imagined that the galaxy rasbora liked colder water 🙈So I absolutely have to rethink 🤔 Can guppies and endlers handle colder water? About 18°C? It's around 22-24 in the bathroom in the summer but in the winter it can drop down to 18 if I don't leave the radiator on 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Endlers like 78-80 and guppy like 72-78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Colu said: Endlers like 78-80 and guppy like 72-78 Then it'll probably be too cold for them, 72°F is 22°C. I'll have around 64,4°F (18°C) sometimes in the winter 😬 Hm, gonna have to think about this 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LillyBlomqvist said: Then it'll probably be too cold for them, 72°F is 22°C. I'll have around 64,4°F (18°C) sometimes in the winter 😬 Hm, gonna have to think about this 😁 Should be fine, I raise my down to 60, they are still actively eating and swimming but breeding does slow down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 You could keep white clouds at that temp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 14 hours ago, WhitecloudDynasty said: Should be fine, I raise my down to 60, they are still actively eating and swimming but breeding does slow down Oh really? 😀 Maby I should try then. Is it okay to just keep males? 14 hours ago, Colu said: You could keep white clouds at that temp Not a bad idea 😀 They look beautiful! I'll read about them and think about it. Do you know if they jump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, LillyBlomqvist said: Oh really? 😀 Maby I should try then. Is it okay to just keep males? Not a bad idea 😀 They look beautiful! I'll read about them and think about it. Do you know if they jump? Just males is fine, guppy will jump before white cloud will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 hours ago, WhitecloudDynasty said: Just males is fine, guppy will jump before white cloud will Okay, thank you for your time! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 +1 for white clouds. Such an underrated fish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm going to agree with Randy here. I am also a huge fan of white clouds. They won't disappoint! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Randy said: +1 for white clouds. Such an underrated fish. 7 minutes ago, MAC said: I'm going to agree with Randy here. I am also a huge fan of white clouds. They won't disappoint! Well, then it's decided! I trust you guys. Have been curious about them for a while now, I feel it's time to give them a chance 😀 I'll post some pics when the tank is up and running with the white clouds 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 If you get into summer tubbing, those White Clouds can go outside unheated too! I love them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Streetwise said: If you get into summer tubbing, those White Clouds can go outside unheated too! I love them. Nice! 😀 Maby I'll try that! Are white clouds okay with shrimps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I have kept Neo shrimp with the White Clouds, outdoors first and then moved indoors, and the shrimp did fine. Fry will still want a high density of plants or hardscape for more safety. I will report more as the current tank matures and gets more plants. I have a couple of journals on these here, which I can link when I am off mobile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Matt Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Second on the shrimp plus white cloud combo. The white clouds didn't bother with my cherry shrimp and both have done fine in my 20L without a heater, they get down to 64 in the winter in my house so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 White Cloud Dynasty has some beautiful white clouds. Here’s a couple videos that show off his breeders: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) @LillyBlomqvist, these two journals cover the journey of my White Clouds and Neocaridina: I will run at least one tub outdoors again next Spring, with the knowledge that I have gained from my experience, and the forum. Edited January 13, 2021 by Streetwise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyBlomqvist Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 Thank you so much everyone! 😀🙏 I'll look at the videos when I get home. I have a feeling that this will be an awesome tank. I've never had either white clouds or shrimps before so it'll be exciting 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ellsworth Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 have have about 11 rainbow shiners in a 20 long and I wouldn't go smaller than that. They hang out most of the time in the flow so little movement, however, they still like to chase each other a lot so they circle around and play in the flow. They are also quick swimmers and can get over 2 inches like mentioned above. Great little fish that always swim up to the glass to say hi to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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