Levi_Aquatics Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I am trying to grow Java moss for profit is sunlight mason jars. I decided to put a rams horn snail in one to see if that helps. This could be a terrible idea and end up in a mess of algae, but I decided to give it a try. Let me know your thoughts about this please. I will try to give weekly updates. Merry Christmas! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty o Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 i have no idea if thats a good idea or not, but you dont know until you try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn T Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 No idea whether it's good or bad, but I look forward to seeing how your experiment works out. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Hmm . . . depending on how much actual sunlight penetrates the glass, and for how long . . . you might end up with green water . . . or a bacterial bloom followed by a spurt of infusoria. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi_Aquatics Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Fish Folk said: Hmm . . . depending on how much actual sunlight penetrates the glass, and for how long . . . you might end up with green water . . . or a bacterial bloom followed by a spurt of infusoria. Yes. I guess it’s just a waiting game. Thanks for the input! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisD Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 A while back I transferred some java moss from one tank to another. The source tank has a small BBA issue, so I put the moss in a bowl without water and sprayed it with 3% H2O2 and let it sit for about 30 minutes before rinsing it with declorinated water. I now observe no algae in the destination tank and the moss is as healthy as in the source tank. Perhaps, if you do grow algae, you can try to see if what I did helps eliminate the algae. Pull it out, treat it, then put it back into a cleaned vessel. I hope your experiment is a success. I know I trim away several dollars worth of moss on a weekly basis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenman Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 The "for profit" part will be the hard part for you. There are lots of people out there selling golf ball sized chunks of java moss. (That's how I bought mine.) Many are now selling it for under $5 with free shipping. By the time you factor in a container for the moss, the envelope/box to ship it, the shipping costs and the time/gas/energy needed to transport it to the shipper/post office, making a profit from it will be a challenge. Also, the Ramshorn snail could be a bad idea. They tend to reproduce freely and lots of people don't want snail infested java moss. (I'd prefer snail infested java moss, but that's just me.) If you're selling it for under $5, and eBay/Aquabid/whoever gets a cut, then you're paying for packaging materials, shipping costs, your own time in printing out the labels and communicating with the buyers, fixing any issues that cropped up ("My moss came all dead!") the odds of making any money from it are pretty slim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi_Aquatics Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, ChrisD said: A while back I transferred some java moss from one tank to another. The source tank has a small BBA issue, so I put the moss in a bowl without water and sprayed it with 3% H2O2 and let it sit for about 30 minutes before rinsing it with declorinated water. I now observe no algae in the destination tank and the moss is as healthy as in the source tank. Perhaps, if you do grow algae, you can try to see if what I did helps eliminate the algae. Pull it out, treat it, then put it back into a cleaned vessel. I hope your experiment is a success. I know I trim away several dollars worth of moss on a weekly basis. That sounds like a great idea! Should I run into an algae issue I will give it a try. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi_Aquatics Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, gardenman said: The "for profit" part will be the hard part for you. There are lots of people out there selling golf ball sized chunks of java moss. (That's how I bought mine.) Many are now selling it for under $5 with free shipping. By the time you factor in a container for the moss, the envelope/box to ship it, the shipping costs and the time/gas/energy needed to transport it to the shipper/post office, making a profit from it will be a challenge. Also, the Ramshorn snail could be a bad idea. They tend to reproduce freely and lots of people don't want snail infested java moss. (I'd prefer snail infested java moss, but that's just me.) If you're selling it for under $5, and eBay/Aquabid/whoever gets a cut, then you're paying for packaging materials, shipping costs, your own time in printing out the labels and communicating with the buyers, fixing any issues that cropped up ("My moss came all dead!") the odds of making any money from it are pretty slim. It will certainly be a challenge, but if growing it in small jars works, I will set up more jars and be able to make lots of moss with little effort. I am also planning on selling the moss to a lfs to cut out shipping costs and problems. Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisD Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I've had moss sitting in a container with minimal water for months only under indirect and pretty weak grow lights for house plants. Think under leaves. It's survived quite well. I personally feel the important part of it all is to have fun doing it even if you don't make much money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua14 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) About 2 months ago I threw some java moss in two different sealed jars. One is in my fishroom under LED lights the other is in my room that gets a ton of sunlight. The idea was I wanted to see if it would grow emersed. They both seem to be growing but the one in my bedroom has seemed to double in size. If I remember tomorrow I'll update with a picture. Edited December 29, 2020 by Joshua14 Added photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shkote Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I stuff excess handfuls in cups under regular fishroom/room lighting topping the water off when it needs it, and it grows in the cups. I've always had better luck with lush green Java moss in lower light than high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi_Aquatics Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Lynze said: I stuff excess handfuls in cups under regular fishroom/room lighting topping the water off when it needs it, and it grows in the cups. I've always had better luck with lush green Java moss in lower light than high. I will have to try that out too! Thanks for the idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi_Aquatics Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 17 hours ago, ChrisD said: I've had moss sitting in a container with minimal water for months only under indirect and pretty weak grow lights for house plants. Think under leaves. It's survived quite well. I personally feel the important part of it all is to have fun doing it even if you don't make much money. Yep! Having fun is certainly the most important part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi_Aquatics Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Now that it has been a few weeks, I decided to do an update on the Java moss experiment. The moss has grown a bit and the snail is doing well. The water level in the jar with the snail seems to be lower than the one without a snail. This could be due to the location of the jars though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFins Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 looking good 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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