Epivet Posted Wednesday at 02:24 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:24 PM I just attempted to place root tabs for the first timeon my 3 month old 29 g tank. I placed 7. Two popped up and released contents into water column. I tested water parameters and they seem fine 15 minutes later. Inverts and fish seem fine so far. I am leaving them tomorrow for the first time for 2 days and I am having a panic attack😱 1
Basrive Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM My fattest cory cat dug up and ate a root tab. Should be fine if parameters hold! 1
lefty o Posted Wednesday at 02:44 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:44 PM dont panic. once the gel cap dissolves, the root tabs fertilizer is in the water column, no matter if its floating around, or in the substrate. everything inside the tank below the surface of the water is in the water column. there is no magic barrier between the water, and substrate. 5
Epivet Posted Wednesday at 02:47 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:47 PM Thank you! Thank you! I will .monitor today and when I get back. Have a peaceful holiday 😊 1
Tanked Posted Wednesday at 05:18 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:18 PM Next time poke a tiny hole in the ends of the tabs. This will allow water in and let the air out. 2 1
JoeQ Posted Wednesday at 10:12 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:12 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, lefty o said: dont panic. once the gel cap dissolves, the root tabs fertilizer is in the water column, no matter if its floating around, or in the substrate. everything inside the tank below the surface of the water is in the water column. there is no magic barrier between the water, and substrate. The age old root tab debate, and I can't resist fueling a robust discussion!! My question to this is: isn't the majority of the nutriends locked into the media and available to plants through root contact? Aren't root tabs essentially the same principal as using kitty litter in an aquarium? High cec media that resists leaching nutrients into the water colum? Edited Wednesday at 10:31 PM by JoeQ 1
lefty o Posted Thursday at 03:54 PM Posted Thursday at 03:54 PM 17 hours ago, JoeQ said: The age old root tab debate, and I can't resist fueling a robust discussion!! My question to this is: isn't the majority of the nutriends locked into the media and available to plants through root contact? Aren't root tabs essentially the same principal as using kitty litter in an aquarium? High cec media that resists leaching nutrients into the water colum? the roots are in contact with the water, so if its in the water column, its touching the roots.😎 2
JoeQ Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, lefty o said: the roots are in contact with the water, so if its in the water column, its touching the roots.😎 Technically (and the textbook definition of water colum), is the area between the top of substrate and the surface of the water. Unless we are talking about floaters roots, normally roots are buried in the substrate (below the water colum). 😎 Edited Thursday at 04:10 PM by JoeQ 1
lefty o Posted Thursday at 06:48 PM Posted Thursday at 06:48 PM 2 hours ago, JoeQ said: Technically (and the textbook definition of water colum), is the area between the top of substrate and the surface of the water. Unless we are talking about floaters roots, normally roots are buried in the substrate (below the water colum). 😎 we can argue technicallities i guess, but unless somehow the substrate is dry, its in the water column. thats my story, and im sticking to it. 1
JoeQ Posted Thursday at 10:13 PM Posted Thursday at 10:13 PM 3 hours ago, lefty o said: we can argue technicallities i guess, but unless somehow the substrate is dry, its in the water column. thats my story, and im sticking to it. Way to commit to a position! I will gladly take the 'W' from a technically. My position is that only a small amount of nutrients leach into the water colum when placed properly. Ideally under the intended target plant. 1
lefty o Posted Thursday at 10:40 PM Posted Thursday at 10:40 PM 25 minutes ago, JoeQ said: Way to commit to a position! I will gladly take the 'W' from a technically. My position is that only a small amount of nutrients leach into the water colum when placed properly. Ideally under the intended target plant. nothing wrong with targeted, i use both liquid ferts, and tabs, but my take is still that if its wet, its in the water column. nice problem to have, having options on how to fertilize. 1
Solarpower Posted Friday at 05:09 AM Posted Friday at 05:09 AM I love the idea of a sinking root tab as a newbie who has had more root tabs float than stay buried. Pinholes is an option I guess 😶🌫️ 1
HelplessNewbie Posted Friday at 06:20 AM Posted Friday at 06:20 AM 1 hour ago, Solarpower said: I love the idea of a sinking root tab Me, too! Maybe ACO can modify the root tabs so that they contain something heavier like sand? 1
PonyPlantedTanks Posted Friday at 08:51 PM Posted Friday at 08:51 PM Wouldn’t worry. Whenever I don’t plug one deep enough my betta eats every gel piece he can find… little pig! He’s never had any issues and I’ve never had any issues🤷🏼♀️ 1
Epivet Posted Friday at 10:31 PM Author Posted Friday at 10:31 PM So, I got home from Thanksgiving and everyone was fine. Thank you for the support.😊 I assume I should wait a bit before attempting this again. My nitrates went from 10 to 25ppm. 1
morganmac Posted Friday at 10:39 PM Posted Friday at 10:39 PM My root tabs popped up in my first tank and I panicked because I didn't know what that white gooey stuff was. Never dreamed it would be the gel caps, since they were green when I put them in. Felt relieved and like a dummy once some nice folks on here pointed out what was happening, lol. I tried poking a hole with a pin when I put new ones in last week. So far, no pop ups, so I give that trick a thumbs up. 2
Solarpower Posted Saturday at 03:17 PM Posted Saturday at 03:17 PM Just one more thought on root tabs floating. These “tabs” are meant to target the roots and substrate. Losing the nutrients before during and after to the water column is a big loss in efficacy and value. Fertilizer is one of the biggest inputs so being efficient with that matters. 1
Epivet Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM Update. After all the hoopla I discovered a singular fry tonight. Not sure if it is a cherry barb or cpd
Tanked Posted yesterday at 03:36 PM Posted yesterday at 03:36 PM 14 hours ago, Epivet said: Update. After all the hoopla I discovered a singular fry tonight. Not sure if it is a cherry barb or cpd Early Christmas gift. 1
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