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 New project is starting 😉 

After having a bunch of tanks at home, I am going to expand to the garage. Leaving the 7 tanks in my house and expanding, my garage is fairly big and I also have a gym inside, so on one side it will be a full aquarium rack, on the other side the gym. 

I got 2 big tanks +300L (+80 gallons) connected to a sump. All other tanks are stand alone with air filters, drip and overflow. I also have 2 terrariums and want to grow plants out of the bigger tanks (5 tanks in total that are +200 Liter). 

Rack specs

  • Build 7 racks of each 1.70 x 50 x 200

Tanks (36 in total) 

  • 2 x 350 liters (on 250 liter sump) 
  • 4 x 200 liters (on airfilters)
  • 26 x 45 liters (on airfilters)
  • 4 x 25 liters (on airfilters)

Tasks

  • Setup rack and paint black
  • Add waterproof paint to all boards
  • Glue fishtank mats
  • Drill all tanks for auto drains
  • Add pipework behind rack (pvc / air / irrigation) 
  • Add air filters to tanks
  • Add dripping to tank
  • Install switch boards to control all electrical component  
  • Add 2 new electrical groups with redundancy

 

Order (mostly done) 

  • Sponge filters
  • Heaters (all Aquael) 
  • Lamps Chihiros mostly
  • Linear Piston Air Pump
  • Rainbird drip system
  • Co2 system Chihiros + ph measurement
  • Sump (heaters, temperatuur
  • Paint, diffusers and all small materials 

Breeding
I want to start breeding

  • Various Sulawesi Shrimp species
  • L Numbers
  • Corydoras
  • Pencils 
  • Cichlids 

I am still figuring out which ones goes best with others and how to setup the tanks. Over the next 4 weeks we will build the racks, electricity, pipework and such. We hope to have water in them by end of June, so we can start breeding after summer (September) since we will be out for summer mostly. 

I added some setup sketches and pictures to start

 

Any tips on

* How to setup the racks (i did watch a trazillion movies) 

* What to breed and combine 

* If the setup is smart to do so, on the work space we will add a sink as well. 

* BTW I am not breeding for a living, its a hobby. My local fish stores are becoming friend, they can have some and help me with breeding techniques. 

 

Thanks for reading and your help 🙂 

 

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On 5/25/2024 at 5:01 PM, MikeDutch said:

 

 New project is starting 😉 

After having a bunch of tanks at home, I am going to expand to the garage. Leaving the 7 tanks in my house and expanding, my garage is fairly big and I also have a gym inside, so on one side it will be a full aquarium rack, on the other side the gym. 

I got 2 big tanks +300L (+80 gallons) connected to a sump. All other tanks are stand alone with air filters, drip and overflow. I also have 2 terrariums and want to grow plants out of the bigger tanks (5 tanks in total that are +200 Liter). 

Rack specs

  • Build 7 racks of each 1.70 x 50 x 200

Tanks (36 in total) 

  • 2 x 350 liters (on 250 liter sump) 
  • 4 x 200 liters (on airfilters)
  • 26 x 45 liters (on airfilters)
  • 4 x 25 liters (on airfilters)

Tasks

  • Setup rack and paint black
  • Add waterproof paint to all boards
  • Glue fishtank mats
  • Drill all tanks for auto drains
  • Add pipework behind rack (pvc / air / irrigation) 
  • Add air filters to tanks
  • Add dripping to tank
  • Install switch boards to control all electrical component  
  • Add 2 new electrical groups with redundancy

 

Order (mostly done) 

  • Sponge filters
  • Heaters (all Aquael) 
  • Lamps Chihiros mostly
  • Linear Piston Air Pump
  • Rainbird drip system
  • Co2 system Chihiros + ph measurement
  • Sump (heaters, temperatuur
  • Paint, diffusers and all small materials 

Breeding
I want to start breeding

  • Various Sulawesi Shrimp species
  • L Numbers
  • Corydoras
  • Pencils 
  • Cichlids 

I am still figuring out which ones goes best with others and how to setup the tanks. Over the next 4 weeks we will build the racks, electricity, pipework and such. We hope to have water in them by end of June, so we can start breeding after summer (September) since we will be out for summer mostly. 

I added some setup sketches and pictures to start

 

Any tips on

* How to setup the racks (i did watch a trazillion movies) 

* What to breed and combine 

* If the setup is smart to do so, on the work space we will add a sink as well. 

* BTW I am not breeding for a living, its a hobby. My local fish stores are becoming friend, they can have some and help me with breeding techniques. 

 

Thanks for reading and your help 🙂 

 

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Wow, I can’t wait to see how it turns out @MikeDutch! Awesome!

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On 5/26/2024 at 1:54 AM, Tony s said:

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Thanks great tip 👍

So I am thinking to add a pretank for the auto drip system. This wat I can add a dosing pump to the whole system, what would you recommend to add ? Since I got various tanks with various fish and shrimp. I can use this for general and then add tank specific (like high PH with sulawesi shrimps) as well.


Btw water is very good in Amsterdam. No chlorides and ph is good

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You can look to the reefing world for autodosers, I often see them on reefing forums and on social media forsale like on Facebook Marketplace etc. 

It’s a great project, well thought out. Is the garage well insulated? I think my previous 20 tank setup initially I thought it’d be warm enough. I ended up adding a lot of insulation as I upgraded finally using R rated insulation panels on the side of the racks and above. Next time I’ll use a false floor to allow warmer air to form under the racks I think. Heated floors would be a dream. 

I’ll be following along! Have fun! 

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On 5/26/2024 at 7:27 AM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said:

You can look to the reefing world for autodosers, I often see them on reefing forums and on social media forsale like on Facebook Marketplace etc. 

It’s a great project, well thought out. Is the garage well insulated? I think my previous 20 tank setup initially I thought it’d be warm enough. I ended up adding a lot of insulation as I upgraded finally using R rated insulation panels on the side of the racks and above. Next time I’ll use a false floor to allow warmer air to form under the racks I think. Heated floors would be a dream. 

I’ll be following along! Have fun! 

Thanks, i got a chihiros autodoser already in, one with 4 containers 😉  

On isulation I am thinking to do something new. I will do the backwall and add a meter in front of the racks a black heavy curtain that made for isolation. So I can open it when its warm and close it in the winter. Will paint the ceiling, floor and walls black, should look nice 😉 

I am planning to fully renovate the garage in 2 years, I am on the permit proces now, Its hard in Amsterdam 😉 Then i will add floorheating for sure. so this setup if for the next 2 years, I got a place to store it during renovations. 

 

Thanks for the heads up !

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Last weeks we worked on 

* Getting the racks all spray painted black
* Making the boards and painting them with waterproof painting
* Ordering all tanks, so we got now
** 60 tanks of 50x30x30. - 20 tanks Caridina - 20 tanks Nepo Caridina - 20 tanks various fish
** 8 tanks of 100x50x50
** One large tank of 160x40x60

We want to add 2 large tanks of 200x50x50 . We also added a greenwall section in the middle and started cloning monstera plants. We have another wall of 2 meters which we want to add plants to, these will be in the flexible bags that you can hang on the wall, the current wall is made out of hard plastic bags. 


The plan now is to add a curtain on the front that we can close so we can keep heat in, while we still have a meter to walk in front. We are also making 2 work spaces with sinks and storage on the left and right side. We also adding a RO water system with a 200 liter storage .

Tomorrow we going to add the tanks and start drilling the drains and such 😉 

QUESTIONS

- Caridina : I want to add auto drip with RO water to fill up tanks  and add a water drain, have a very slow drip, just to fill up the evaporation, is that enough
- I want to add a drain to every tank that can drain 50% , this is for a large waterchange, so I can open the valve and then have the dripper fill it up gain (dripper is adjustable) or should I add a floater in there that fills up automatically to the right amount? 
- I ordere 4 pleco tanks (more shallow) where I want to breed Pleco specifically, we just have the first breeding groups in (22 times L134 and 8 L333) , anyone experience with Pleco shallow tanks, would you add extra current? I have 2 filter sponges in there

 

 

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Pleco tanks need wood and current. Hypancistrus will be the ones needing 50% water changes. You can put powerhead pumps on sponges if that’s how you’re filtering them. Those sponges will get dirty quickly. I usually use canisters on pleco tanks. Provide current, filtration- bio, mechanical and with some Purigen chemical. 
 

Caridina will not need big water changes so I’d focus on the Neos and the Fish for your water change system. The drippers for Caridina like an auto-tipoff makes complete sense. That’s where a float valve could be very useful. I know Mark’s Shrimp Tanks has gotten away from even the going wisdom of 10% weekly water changes on his Taibee shrimps and is just doing top offs with R/O. He’s letting moss and plants do the nutrient export for the tanks which makes a lot of sense. 

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Some updates 🙂

drilled holes in 9 big tanks

added bulkheads

used styrofoam as mould, its perfect since the water wont escape

Unpacked 40 aquariums

added foam under aquariums

Tomorrow planning to

- paint wall black
- finalize electric work
- start plumbing 
- move big tank to rack 

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On 6/13/2024 at 3:23 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said:

Pleco tanks need wood and current. Hypancistrus will be the ones needing 50% water changes. You can put powerhead pumps on sponges if that’s how you’re filtering them. Those sponges will get dirty quickly. I usually use canisters on pleco tanks. Provide current, filtration- bio, mechanical and with some Purigen chemical. 
 

Caridina will not need big water changes so I’d focus on the Neos and the Fish for your water change system. The drippers for Caridina like an auto-tipoff makes complete sense. That’s where a float valve could be very useful. I know Mark’s Shrimp Tanks has gotten away from even the going wisdom of 10% weekly water changes on his Taibee shrimps and is just doing top offs with R/O. He’s letting moss and plants do the nutrient export for the tanks which makes a lot of sense. 

Thanks for the tips! I considered adding less species per tank and keep things simplier. Using neo/corydora for cleaning the bottoms. Keeping Plecos in an isolated tank seems best. Would you combine canister and sponge (i got a loop already anyway) for the pleco tanks? with a 200l tank I would need to got for a large canister or can I connect all 4 pleco tanks to 1 sump . i can convert one to 200 liter tank to a sump easily and add 4 pumps to each tank.

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All I can say (because you passed my level of knowledge a long time ago in fishkeeping 🤣) is just WOW. you must be having a great time with all this. I always liked putting together big projects. 

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I would say one large sump would work but then if there’s a problem it would difficult to isolate. I’d rather have individual filtration per tank. I know that Eric Boddrock (sic) has sumps for some of his racks and he’s one of the most successful breeders of catfish I’ve known. He also has a very specific quarantine process so he knows there’s nothing before he puts them in his system. 

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We had an old isolated window left, which we used to make a window in the work area. This way we keep connected to the rest of the room and we can keep an eye on the entrance room ; ) 

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We empties the 350L tank into 4x 200 Liter tanks, we have 4-6 filters already running for a while so we could use them in the 4 new tanks. We separated  the panda corydoras (top right with filter sand) , the L333 breeding group (top left)  , guppies (right bottom)  and Spotted Conjo Puffer in separate tanks, give them a bit more privacy 😉 

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We decided to make the old tank rimless, it will have an open top with monstera growing out of them and we thought I will look better, used a handgrinder to cut the plastic of this old Juwel tank. 

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On 6/13/2024 at 3:23 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said:

Pleco tanks need wood and current. Hypancistrus will be the ones needing 50% water changes. You can put powerhead pumps on sponges if that’s how you’re filtering them. Those sponges will get dirty quickly. I usually use canisters on pleco tanks. Provide current, filtration- bio, mechanical and with some Purigen chemical. 
 

Caridina will not need big water changes so I’d focus on the Neos and the Fish for your water change system. The drippers for Caridina like an auto-tipoff makes complete sense. That’s where a float valve could be very useful. I know Mark’s Shrimp Tanks has gotten away from even the going wisdom of 10% weekly water changes on his Taibee shrimps and is just doing top offs with R/O. He’s letting moss and plants do the nutrient export for the tanks which makes a lot of sense. 

Sweet thanks, I was reading  about that as well, Caridina only top offs 😉 . I am thinking to drill the tanks anyway, now I drill them at 60% height, so I can add a tube that I can rotate, this way I can quickly do a +70% waterchange if I ever want to without a hassle. For the caridina I want to add a large UGF en a Sponge with small media box and give them some hiding spaces with moss on it, like half a coconut. 

For the fish and Neo I am thinking to do a continues drip system, all tanks will have an overflow, so I can just have them refreshed continuously. I found this calculator for it https://www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/EffectiveWaterChange.php 

Thanks for the heads up Billy

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we adjusted the steel shelf holders today so we can lower the rack shelves almost to the bottom, for the looks this is even better 🙂

 

We picked up a bunch of plants for the green wall.

We moved the big tanks to the new rack and filled another two 200l, forgot to take pictures 🙈

Worked ar my new tank at home and filled it with water and installed a chihiros 130 wrgb. 

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Today we painted a part of the wall black, super happy with the looks! We cleaned up the space a bit and made a plumbing plan. 

We looking into buying lamps now, found similar to hygger lamps on ali, thinking to order 28x75cm and 10x100cm to start with as well as 8x50cm grow lamps for the plants that will grow out of the tanks. 

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