Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) May 14th, 2024 Today is the first official day of my pond build. My mom has asked me to build a pond for her birthday/retirement party on the 25th this month, and I have 11 days to complete this build. I have never built a pond, but I have some limited landscaping experience, and a humble 3 years of fishkeeping experience. I've evolved from fish bowls, to aquascapes, and now a pond. After consuming hours of SerpaDesign, Aquarium Co-op, and being berated by the well meaning but somewhat sketchy local fish store in my area, it has come to this. "Swerve me? The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Over unsounded gorges, through the rifled hearts of mountains, under torrents’ beds, unerringly I rush! Naught’s an obstacle, naught’s an angle to the iron way!" -Captain Ahab, Moby Dick (Never have read Moby Dick, but this felt appropriate) Today, I have bought a "The Pond Guy MagFlo Pump, Model 1000" for 89.99 + 10.5 shipping + 4.95 tax = $105.44 It is 11:43am, and I will now dig for all my worth. Will attempt to keep updating journal daily. -Free Gravel Enthusiast Edited July 25 by Free Gravel Enthusiast Retyped the title because of now misleading information: former title included, "11 DAY DEADLINE." build has passed deadline :( 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Cory Posted May 14 Administrators Share Posted May 14 Good luck, stay hydrated and invite friends over. eventually they'll dig a little git also 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Hope it turns out great, best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 May 15th, 2024 Yesterday, I leveled and compacted the dirt nearest to the patio to lay my first row of bricks. I've just finished a steaming plate of pasta for lunch, it's 11:48, and time for me to get back in the dirt. I, perhaps mistakenly, am building this pond mostly by feel. I have a rough idea of what I want, but am trying to stay flexible based on what reality presents me with. The obstacle I am tackling today is leveling the ground outlining of the pond. I *think* I will have to dig up sod in order to do this properly. In anycase, it is vital to get this done as soon as possible, because I have no idea what size pond liner to buy. Certainly there are easier ways to do this if I thought more... but I do not want to get caught up in the thought. I heard once, not sure where(I'm sure a Google search could tell me), that 'a mediocre but well executed plan is better than a perfect but poorly executed plan. It is 11:57 and I have written enough self-indulgent gobbledygook for today. I must dig. -Free Gravel Enthusiast P.S. - Thank you for your encouragement 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Cory Posted May 15 Administrators Share Posted May 15 Doing it by feel is pretty fun, cause even with really good plans you'll have to pivot. Every project I've ever done, there is always adaptation needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyxxl Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Good luck, I renovated my entire house by feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamS Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Good luck with the pond and the deadline. Keep the pictures coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 May 16th, 2024 Yesterday, I dug out the outline of the pond, and replanted the sod into various bald patches in the yard. I also called the Digger's Hotline, so that they will mark any underground utility lines in and around where the pond will be. The ground is not yet leveled, but the bricks have been placed as an outline. The pond at its widest is 4 feet across. I plan on making the pond 3 feet deep, with a long intake bay along the patio, with a 1000 gph pump pulling the water through layers of different sized gravel/rocks. The polished water will be pumped up to a stock tub directly behind and above the pump, and flow down a long widening spillway along the back of the pond structure. i also ordered my pond liner and seam tape last night. It is supposed to arrive on the 21st this month. Fingers crossed. As aforementioned, I still have to level the ground around the pond, which is shaping up to be a difficult and meticulous task. I do have the time for it, but do I have the focus? These are the types of questions I ask myself. I cannot waste a day; it is absolutely imperative that the pond is finished on time. I do not want to put any stress on my mom for her party by having a dirt caked patio with EPDM liner and Caulk splattered about the place. That said; does anyone have any suggestions for what kind of adhesive I should use on the bricks? Or perhaps there is a specific type of mortar I should look for? I'd like to seal the liner to the top of this first layer of bricks I have in the ground, and then build up a small wall above the water line to help dissuade curious basset hounds from jumping into the pond... -Free Gravel Enthusiast P.S. - Thank you for your continued support and comments; especially helpful for keeping me accountable for working on the build. Today was an especially tough day to get out of bed, and will be a late start. This will not shake my determination! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 This is gonna be awesome. Glad I stumbled upon this as it was the first topic after updating my own journal. Keep it coming! Stoked to see what this turns into. If you get it fully built out in 11 days that’ll be quite the accomplishment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyxxl Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Regular redimix mortar 🧱 is all you need. You can dye it if you want. You can either wet stack which is what normal bricks are done or you can dry stack and mortar the back. Probably uses the same amount of mortar . You will gain about 1/2 inch per layer versus the curious hounds wet stacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 May 17th, 2024 Yesterday, I worked for only 30 minutes. In that time, I dug out about 1/3 - 1/4 of the space around the pond, necessary to level the dirt evenly. It was raining lightly, and the soil was soft and pliable. I had thought that the rain would make things more difficult, but it was so light, it only made things easier, if not a degree messier. Additionally, the city utilities crew planted this flag in the pond sometime yesterday when I wasn't looking. Awesomeness. I don't have to worry about blowing up. Today I start my dig earlier than previous days, but not as early as I wanted to. Still, I ought to be able to finish leveling the pond today. Actually, I must finish leveling the pond today, because I am headed out of town to visit my sister this weekend, and will lose a day for pond work in exchange for time spent with family... A most challenging descision... Additionally, the pump I ordered came in the mail today. It looks to have survived shipping. The pond liner is projected to arrive Monday or Tuesday, to which I anxiously wait. If the pond liner is late; folks, I'm screwed. On 5/16/2024 at 2:32 PM, johnnyxxl said: Regular redimix mortar 🧱 is all you need. You can dye it if you want. You can either wet stack which is what normal bricks are done or you can dry stack and mortar the back. Probably uses the same amount of mortar . You will gain about 1/2 inch per layer versus the curious hounds wet stacking. Thanks for the tip johnnyxxl. I don't know the first thing about brick laying, and though I could have started with my own research, having someone point me in the right direction does wonders for my confidence. Truly helpful on a practical and mental level. -Free Gravel Enthusiast P.S. - Again, thank you for the support! Never give up, my friends! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyxxl Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 https://youtu.be/6XxFFCz2Jes?si=FDmQwx6b31KLGi3o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryWithAKatana Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Any more updates? Did that liner come in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 On 5/21/2024 at 11:29 AM, CoryWithAKatana said: Any more updates? Did that liner come in? Here is an abridged update from 5/18/2024 - 5/22/2024 May 18th, 2024 This morning, I rode my motorcycle to Madison WI to visit my oldest brother and sister. It was a great ride and a beautiful day. May 19th, 2024 On this day, I returned home via I-90 and it was horrible. Do not ride small motorcycles on the interstate. Upon returning home, I did nothing, as I was so exhausted. May 20th, 2024 All of my materials had come in except for the main pond liner. Additionally, it was forecasted to rain. I bided my time, picked up some corrugated drain pipe from fleet farm, and did nothing. May 21st, 2024 The main pond liner finally arrived, and so did a storm system. Severe weather warnings were issued all over Wisconsin. Suffice to say, i did not work on the pond. May 22nd, 2024 I gathered my tools, and began to dig, and level the earth. What gave me the most trouble today was leveling the soil for the brick foundation. I used the soil and sand from the hole to try to level the ground, but I found it much harder to compact. Much time was spent fiddling with his before I gave up and began to dig in earnest. I threw much sand onto the spot that needed to be leveled, thinking that I'll figure that out when I figure it out. The back row of bricks is for the spillway, which is unessential for the dig. It gives me a headache to think about. I dug the hole to be approximately 2' 6" deep. I should have took pictures before I put the liner in, but I am truthfully quite short on time. Trying very hard to trust the process here. I am now filling the 'pond' with the garden hose, hoping that the water pressure will sort out the liner somewhat. So far so good. Next I will carefully dig the trench for the intake bay. I foresee having to jump into the pond in the near future to bucket out water for further digging. I find my foresight to be so blurry. -Free Gravel Enthusiast P.S. - I'm late for work! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 May 23rd, 2024 I dug the trench for the gravel filter water polisher thing. It was most horrific. Digging a deep and narrow hole is way harder than digging a larger wider one. In addition to the egregious angles my back had to bend to pull dirt and sand out of the trench, there was a dense network of roots from a nearby tree. The shovel would constantly get caught on the roots jutting out of the sides of the trench, which I nipped with a 'lopper(?)' Tool, made for cutting branches and trimming shrubs. THEN the shovel would get caught on the nubs left from the trimming and I would have to trim the roots back again in order to widen the trench. Anyways here is the end result, which turned out to be awfully problematic. Tada! And, of course, the seam leaked, because the EPDM liner was all crinkled creased and folded, and I was too impatient with the seam tape. At this point, i reapplied some double sided seam tape in an unorthodox but thorough manner. I then weighted it down with bricks to attempt to aid the bonding process. Overall, I ended up paying for rushing the job, but I quickly learned. After work, I bought some flex tape, and ready mix mortar from menards, as well as a tall rectangular trash can fle the pump housing. May 24th, 2024 Thunderstorms began at around 8am today. Luckily, I was able to finalize patching the seam before then, and literally stuck on the last piece of Phil Swift's miracle tape just as the first sprinkle of Zues's wrath crashed into the back of my hand. It was dramatic, but I was tired, and really quite over it all. I went to the garage, and modified the trashcan such that it would accommodate a 3' diameter corrugated plastic drain pipe shoved through the side. In layman's terms; I cut a hole in a plastic garbage can. Ever since I first attempted to seal the two EPDM liners together, I have truly been punching in the dark. With the storm pouring down, I was feeling somber, and disappointed in the progress of the pond. And yet, I accomplished so much in such a short amount of time. Since my shovel broke earth, every step along the way has been a new first for me. What exactly I stand to learn from the experience is still unclear, but I know this much: I've had fun, no one is going to lose sleep over the unfinished pond at my mom's party, and the pond is still going to be there after the party too. Updates still coming; happy memorial day weekend to all! Go dig a hole! -Free Gravel Enthusiast P.S. - don't waste time getting started, but take your time once you start. Don't you stop! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamS Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 How did the pond turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggaz Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Less yard, more pond. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 (edited) July 9th, 2024 Funny, that I would recieve this message now of all times - here is what you need to know: After my last post, progress on the pond slogged to a stop. For a whole month I got virtually nothing done. I was. Totally rife with self pity; the last thing I wanted to do was touch the pond; not to get too personal, but this is a problem throughout the many trials of life for me. BUT I'M GETTING BACK UP! My first motivation was pulling out the pond liner completely. My goldfish pond had turned into a mosquito sanctuary. It was about time for a rethink. Upon emptying the intake bay, and draining the pond, which was less work than I had thought it would be, I was able to see the massive leaks on the bottom of the liner. Fact is, I never would have seen the mistakes I made if I didn't rewind to this step. Learning some age old lessons the hard way. This time, I was sure to take my time to seal the leak. And it was still leaking... albeit much much slower. I knew my patch job was good, but I had to turn over the liner one more time to see the leak; this time it was much more obvious, and easy to single out. This is where I am now; the hole is patched, but I only just now ordered the pond hose. Previously I thought that I would be able to find some hose locally... but to no avail. So, the hole is patched, but before I fill in the intake bay with water, I need that hose so I can circulate the water so that no mosquitoes spawn. Currently, what you can see is that the extra liner from the intake bay is folded over top of itself, while the pump circulates the water in the pond to prevent a mosquito hatch. I have long failed the deadline... but perhaps that deadline was too cruel for a novice like me. I'm willing to give myself the benefit of the doubt; and the belief that I can still make a beautiful pond! -Free Gravel Enthusiast Never give up! Edited July 9 by Free Gravel Enthusiast Context edit, and misspelled word 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamS Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Were you able to get the pond finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 On 7/25/2024 at 2:00 AM, AdamS said: Were you able to get the pond finished? Is the pond finished? No, it is not. As an update, the leak has been successfully addressed, (finally) and I am going to lay bricks this Saturday. I'll update you with pictures that night or the following morning. -Free Gravel Enthusiast Never give up! P.S. - does anyone know how to change the title of a thread? I feel like I am baiting people at this point, so far past my former deadline 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoofyGarra Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/25/2024 at 12:06 PM, Free Gravel Enthusiast said: P.S. - does anyone know how to change the title of a thread? I feel like I am baiting people at this point, so far past my former deadline 😅 You would need to edit the original post of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Gravel Enthusiast Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 July 27th, 2024 No mortar today, spent 7 hours getting the liner trimmed just right, and cleaning bricks. For context, the bricks are re-used from a planter. There was old Caulk on most of them, and it had to be scrapped off in order to make the bricks lay mostly flat... In anycase, I'm not too worried. I'd like to do things "right" but the most this brick will hold is an excited basset hound so I'm not gonna get too fussy about keeping it super level. The mortaring will be a success so long as it holds some bricks together. Here is a tab from the liner. I cut these into the edge to fit beneath the bricks. It works pretty well so far. After I do my amateur mortar job, I'll cut away the access for a cleaner look. Still have to find a suitable receptacle for the reservoir that will go behind the pump housing (a.k.a. a hefty garbage can I bought at menards). I've been hoofing it today. Cheers. On 7/25/2024 at 11:12 AM, GoofyGarra said: You would need to edit the original post of the thread Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamS Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 It’s been a month. How is this project going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now