Malaysian Trumpet Snails are bulletproof

[knee]

Not literally but I just found out they’re insanely hardy. I rinsed some small rocks in tap water and a few babies fell in the cup during the rinse. I forgot about them for a few days and when I checked they were still alive. I thought I might have used tank water to rinse the rocks but I was 99% sure I used tap. So I changed the water and I’m 100% sure that it’s tap this time. It’s been 4 days and the snails are still alive. 

I live in the city so our tap definitely has chlorine and chloramines. Just surprised that these snails can handle that. 

[Gannon]

I need to get these. How does the process of quarantine look like? I've been told there is a risk of spreading diseases in fish. Is this true?

[knee]

On 2/13/2024 at 11:03 AM, Gannon said:

I need to get these. How does the process of quarantine look like? I've been told there is a risk of spreading diseases in fish. Is this true?

From Malaysian trumpet snails? I’ve read that certain snails do carry diseases but I’ve never experienced it with pest snails. I wasn’t trying to quarantine them. I accidentally left them in non de chlorinated tap water and they’re still alive. Actually even until today they’re still moving. 

[doktor zhivago]

On 2/13/2024 at 2:03 PM, Gannon said:

I need to get these. How does the process of quarantine look like? I've been told there is a risk of spreading diseases in fish. Is this true?

Sometimes snails can act as a reservoir for part of the life cycle of certain parasites. However I don't think quarantine of the snails would stop this as the parasites won't usually be symptomatic to the snail. 

[Gannon]

On 2/14/2024 at 2:28 PM, doktor zhivago said:

Sometimes snails can act as a reservoir for part of the life cycle of certain parasites. However I don't think quarantine of the snails would stop this as the parasites won't usually be symptomatic to the snail. 

Yeah this is what i understood. Bummer, makes me really not want to try them. 

[doktor zhivago]

On 2/14/2024 at 4:40 PM, Gannon said:

Yeah this is what i understood. Bummer, makes me really not want to try them. 

I don't think its an issue for the vast majority of people. Captive bred fish and snails would have very little contact or ability to spread parasites with those sorts of complex life cycles. For me the fact that trumpet snails breed in the tank would be a far greater annoyance than the remote possibility of some exotic tapeworm taking over my tank. 

[Gannon]

On 2/14/2024 at 3:43 PM, doktor zhivago said:

I don't think its an issue for the vast majority of people. Captive bred fish and snails would have very little contact or ability to spread parasites with those sorts of complex life cycles. For me the fact that trumpet snails breed in the tank would be a far greater annoyance than the remote possibility of some exotic tapeworm taking over my tank. 

I do like that MTS spend a lot of time in and turning over the substrate. But debating whether i should do ramshorn or MTS first. I already have bladder snails so I'm not very concerned by a population explosion or anything.

[Katherine]

On 2/14/2024 at 3:48 PM, Gannon said:

I do like that MTS spend a lot of time in and turning over the substrate. But debating whether i should do ramshorn or MTS first. I already have bladder snails so I'm not very concerned by a population explosion or anything.

In my experience, ramshorns breed much faster than bladder snails. They're also a lot larger. 

[Gannon]

On 2/14/2024 at 4:06 PM, Katherine said:

In my experience, ramshorns breed much faster than bladder snails. They're also a lot larger. 

Still can't get too large if i don't overfeed! Though there still usually is an initial explosion before it comes down and plateaus, at least with bladder snails and I have to assume other snails are similar. 

[Andy's Fish Den]

I once cleaned a tank completely out of all water and substrate, filled the tank with the hottest water straight  out of my tap, then a mild bleach solution, rinsed out several times to get rid of the bleach and smell. I then put in brand new substrate and decor, no plants. After a couple of weeks, there were some MTS in the tank. The only thing I can think of is that there were some little ones or eggs up under the top trim. 

[MattyM]

On 2/14/2024 at 3:48 PM, Gannon said:

I do like that MTS spend a lot of time in and turning over the substrate. But debating whether i should do ramshorn or MTS first.

I love my MTSs for that reason - I have them in a sanded tank now, and am wondering if they would also turn over eco-complete 🤔 may just have to try it. 

In my 100g I have both - the rams tend to climb all over everything and go everwhere, whereas the MTSs stick towards the bottom. 

[knee]

On 2/15/2024 at 4:51 AM, Andy's Fish Den said:

I once cleaned a tank completely out of all water and substrate, filled the tank with the hottest water straight  out of my tap, then a mild bleach solution, rinsed out several times to get rid of the bleach and smell. I then put in brand new substrate and decor, no plants. After a couple of weeks, there were some MTS in the tank. The only thing I can think of is that there were some little ones or eggs up under the top trim. 

I just checked today and they’re still moving. I understand the chlorine could’ve evaporated already but the chloramines are still there