Archie Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Are canister filters good or bad in planted tanks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick M. Bodega Aquatics Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) They are great in planted tanks! What brand are you considering? I'd have to recommend the Fluval 407 for my 75 gal. For the Fluval, you can always decrease the pressure if you are worried about sucking up fish like bettas. How big is your tank? Edited November 14, 2020 by Patrick M. Bodega Aquatics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 I already have one in my 75 gallon it’s the fluval also just heard from other people that they are not good with no reason for it. My guppies keep dieing off and the other tanks I have are all kept the same way just don’t have the canister filter so I thought maybe it could be why. Just wondering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Archie said: Are canister filters good or bad in planted tanks ? Tell us more about your tank. I highly, highly recommend watching the first part of this video, where Cory talks about them. They're not for everybody. Chances are, a HOB might be the right fit for your tank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3vi1p3nguin Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Some people don't like canisters because in most situations, they don't do anything that a HOB doesn't for a much higher cost. I personally like canisters, mostly because I just do to be honest. I like the fact that the tank sits close to the wall I guess. Just don't forget to clean them regularly. It can be easy to forget, and the decreased flow can harder to notice depending on how it is setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RovingGinger Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Personally I don’t like canister filters. I have one running in a 40 breeder and another I tried to get running but always had issues with in my 75. I like the one I have running but I’m a little afraid to maintenance it because it’s working now and I don’t want to have water all over my floor again. Cost and potential for painful failure just feels too high for what to me ends up just being aesthetics. I’m also not reliant on super heavy filtration cos plants help out, so that probably shifts my opinion a bit - and I only have experience with relatively cheap canister filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 Thank you. I have had my canister going for 2 years but I also have two HOBs and 3 sponge filters due to my water not being right most of the time so I keep adding different filters. I may have too much filtration, I don’t know. I also have a lot of plants. My guppies have never done well in this tank. I have other aquariums that only have a Hob and 1 sponge they are always good. With platies and mollies in them. I have one bare bottom with a mix of fish 10 gallon for grow out all is well with it. I think I will take off the canister and slow down the filtration and see if it help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think the argument for using canisters really starts with the larger tanks or with high bio load. For smaller tanks say 55 and less most canisters are expensive overkill. All my tanks are planted the only tank with a canister on it is my 120 Discus tank all the rest use hobs & sponge filtration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dyer Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Do you have hard water, or something like crushed coral in the canister or substrate? If my guppies are struggling it is usually the tank is too cold (under 72+) or a lack of minerals. Seldom is it a lack of filtration if in a heavily planted aquarium for me. But as with all internet advice your mileage may vary 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 I have well water not exactly hard.. in my aquarium it could me a mineral problem I’ll test and see what is going on with the minerals. Thanks for the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I doubt your canister filter has anything to do with your guppies not doing well. I have one in a 55g and the guppies are multiplying. Guppies like slightly harder water and higher pH. My water is around 180 hardness with a pH around 8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Thanks I’ll check mine and see what it is maybe what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateGoldfish Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I am not the biggest fan, they have their uses but I like sponge filters/HOBS more then canisters hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) I think when MTS sets in, you have to think about the maintenance time per filter. More live plants also reduce the filtration requirements. I have sponge filters in all my tanks now, and I expect my shrimp and bottom-feeders to clean them for me. Edited November 18, 2020 by Streetwise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ange Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I personally dislike canisters and don't see myself ever using one. If I wanted filtration that had minimal visibility, I would drill the tank and install a sump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) I have almost every category of filter but a HOB (though I have had them and UG in my past). My canister is doing it's thing, but I am not a fan. I have my largest tank in my kitchen, and needed a way to keep as much hardware hidden as possible, and push the tank as close to the wall as possible. a canister fit the situation, and lives on a shelf under the tank. But it takes more maintenance than I like, and even after freshly serviced does not do as good of a job clearing the mulm out of the water as I had hoped--in fact it almost seems to just stir it up. I am about to fill the entire thing with floss and polishing pads, lol (j/k). I have wondered what would happen if I ran no filtration on this tank and only an air stone--not kidding. I may give it a shot. My favorite filter to this day is the matten filter in my guppy fry auto sorter, and my second favorite is the type that comes built in to the back of a tank Edited November 18, 2020 by Brandy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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