Marcelo Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Hi Everyone, 40 gal planted tank, with injected CO2 and etc. pH from 6,8 going down to 5.5 in the middle of the day. About 7 neons, 8 lemon tetras and about 8 Harlequin AND 2 Angels of about 2.5 inches. Weeks ago I tried to put 5 small Red Cherry Shrimps and I am 99% sure my angels did eat them. Is this normal ? Do you think the problem is I bought too small shrimps or these Angels will eat them anyways? Maybe bigger Cherry or Amanos? thank you Marcelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 On 8/24/2023 at 7:18 PM, Marcelo said: Weeks ago I tried to put 5 small Red Cherry Shrimps and I am 99% sure my angels did eat them. You just have to change up the technique a little bit. Angels are notorious for eating shrimp. Have a tank to the side, get a colony going, then add in your cull shrimp over time. Once you see them doing alright, then you can add in more, but they have to have a foothold. Starting with 5, you lose 2-3 and you might not have any females left. If you have them in a side tank, grow the colony for a few months, then you'll have 50+. The angels will always go after them though. Even amanos can be angel toys, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galabar Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 How old are the angels? I feel like the might get much bigger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Adult angels will wipe out a shrimp colony. I had a 40 breeder that I would throw culls into, there was a lot of them in the tank, and I picked up at a club auction a bag with six sub adult angels cheap to grow out and then take to a later bigger auction. Anyways, by the time I took them to the later auction, all the shrimp in the tank had been picked off. This tank was not heavily planted, but I would say medium load of plants, and the angels were fed a couple of times a day so they also got plenty of other foods. I would not risk having any shrimp with angelfish except for any culls that you would pull out of other shrimp tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettsPapa Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 If you can release the shrimp right up against the plants, where they can crawl inside and hide immediately, you might have a chance to get a colony established, but you will likely only see them occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Angelfish are snipers. Mine also decimated large colonies and then they appear really full and happy. Cichlids will cichlid. Amano’s may be left alone but that is also a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjoma Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Vampire shrimp might do okay. They are quite big and reclusive. I don't think any shrimp are perfectly safe with angels though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I have filter feeder shrimp like Bamboo and Blue Wood shrimp with an angel fish, but I wouldn't put anything like neo in there unless it's a cull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefish Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I kept amano with 4 angels with no problems from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazalanche Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 It's not just shrimp. If it can fit in an angel's mouth, they will try to eat it. If they're bored enough, they'll even try to go after something bigger than their mouth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/25/2023 at 10:53 AM, mynameisnobody said: Cichlids will cichlid. Cichlids gonna cichlid! I agree that any shrimp with angels are a gamble, and most likely not worth the time or money investment. They’re gonna decimate whatever they can. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineSong Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 My angel has eliminated all traces of the healthy colony of yellow shrimp that existed in the tank before he went in. The tank is very densely planted--so much so that the angel has to navigate and contort himself around plants if I skip more than 3 weeks of plant thinning-- and also loaded with cholla wood which I thought would give the shrimp sufficient places to hide. Nope. It may be that there are enough shrimp in there somewhere to resurrect the colony when he moves out, but visually, there are no shrimp in the tank. I used to see the large adults regularly. Then occasionally. Then never. 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolstoy21 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 What flavor do they prefer? Cherry? Tangerine? Green Apple? I'd ask them if they have a preference before purchasing any. 😛 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 Looks like I have to decide what I want : donate these 2 angels or forget shrimps 🙂. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolstoy21 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/26/2023 at 6:05 PM, Marcelo said: Looks like I have to decide what I want : donate these 2 angels or forget shrimps 🙂. Personally I vote for shrimp. Shrimp are so amazing to keep and watch. Totally love them! However, just know that the other fish in your aquarium, even though they are nano, will also snack on the shrimp babies and could pick at the adults causing them to die. In have only had success with keeping shrimp in a community tank with fish when the shrimp were in overwhelming numbers (think hundreds, an overpowering hoard, a total shrimp-pocolypse!) and there was also a lot of vegetation and rock-work for the babies to hide in. Fish would eat them all the time, but their numbers seemed completely un-impacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanked Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I'm glad I read all of this before I ordered the shrimp. It looks like my large community tank is going to remain a 4 fish community for a while longer.😖 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettsPapa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 On 8/26/2023 at 6:21 PM, tolstoy21 said: In have only had success with keeping shrimp in a community tank with fish when the shrimp were in overwhelming numbers (think hundreds, an overpowering hoard, a total shrimp-pocolypse!) and there was also a lot of vegetation and rock-work for the babies to hide in. Fish would eat them all the time, but their numbers seemed completely un-impacted. I've had good luck with adding guppies to tanks with modest numbers of shrimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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