IlhamSetiawan Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Hello there!, I want to have plants in my tank, but i only have Pool filter sand without fertilized substrate and medium light, the only plant i kept are Cryptocoryne Wendtii green and Anubias Nana, is there any other plant recommendations? (The green arrow is where i want to put the plants) Edited August 3 by IlhamSetiawan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I did bare bottom tanks for years and had plant success. If you are careful and allow plants to sit on substrate held by a plant weight they do great. For taller in the back corners Anacharis elodea densa, hornwort and Naja guadalupensis (guppy grass) do fantastic. These also make beautiful floaters. Anacharis hornwort guppy grass Most ludwigia types and pennywort, and moneywort, will do great with sand or no substrate . They grow tall but you can keep trimming the bottom to have whatever height you desire. There are hundreds of types of Buce that will do fabulous and have many varieties of height for shorter front plant (I adore Buce). I’ve grown all of these with mid to low light, no co2, no fertilizer, inert or no substrate they are very easy Moss is a fabulous addition to glue to wood bottoms to give a fuller look Christmas moss is the easiest for me and looks amazing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlhamSetiawan Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 On 8/3/2023 at 6:39 PM, Guppysnail said: Most ludwigia types I tried Ludwigia repens rubin but no luck 😭 On 8/3/2023 at 6:39 PM, Guppysnail said: Anacharis elodea densa, hornwort and Naja guadalupensis I tried that too but they keep rotting On 8/3/2023 at 6:39 PM, Guppysnail said: Buce I used to put them in wood but they melt too On 8/3/2023 at 6:39 PM, Guppysnail said: Christmas moss I used to glue them in the driftwood but they keep melting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Most plants will melt back as they transition to your water. Then they grow in. Ludwigia Rubin is a touchier one. Oval is is sturdy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlhamSetiawan Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Is there any other plant other than in the list? On 8/3/2023 at 6:39 PM, Guppysnail said: I did bare bottom tanks for years and had plant success. If you are careful and allow plants to sit on substrate held by a plant weight they do great. For taller in the back corners Anacharis elodea densa, hornwort and Naja guadalupensis (guppy grass) do fantastic. These also make beautiful floaters. Anacharis hornwort guppy grass Most ludwigia types and pennywort, and moneywort, will do great with sand or no substrate . They grow tall but you can keep trimming the bottom to have whatever height you desire. There are hundreds of types of Buce that will do fabulous and have many varieties of height for shorter front plant (I adore Buce). I’ve grown all of these with mid to low light, no co2, no fertilizer, inert or no substrate they are very easy Moss is a fabulous addition to glue to wood bottoms to give a fuller look Christmas moss is the easiest for me and looks amazing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchaj Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 How tall is the tank? crypt spiralis in the back and Java fern on the rock/wood are easy possibilities 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlhamSetiawan Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 On 8/3/2023 at 7:15 PM, Dutchaj said: How tall is the tank? 50 cm On 8/3/2023 at 7:15 PM, Dutchaj said: crypt spiralis in the back and Java fern on the rock/wood are easy possibilities I was thinking so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchaj Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 In my experience it’s a lot easier to plant 2-3x how many plants you initially think seems right, much easier with the “algae battle” that can happen with under planted tanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JChristophersAdventures Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) It is hard to say why some plants melt. It could be a transition to being submerged, having been grown out of the water. It can also be water parameters, as plants do have preferences just like fish. They can often adjust, but that can be accompanied by a melt-down period as well. Some plants like cooler water than others. Like certain terrestrial plants some easily "burn" under too high a light (or being too close to it at the surface), others need tons of light. The best way I know to make it all easy, is to try one of a lot of different plants that you think will generally like your set-up and see which ones flourish... then, double down on what works and don't get any more of those that don't. Some plants get their nutrients either mostly from the water, others mostly from the substrate. If you have water column feeders, then all you do is test your water to maintain some nitrates (not nitrites nor ammonia) and dose a liquid fertilizer like Easy Green. You can plant many of these, although I prefer to float them or mount them to rocks/wood. If you are using plants that feed from the substrate, then you would likely want a nutrient rich substrate, or root tabs in the sand/gravel. If there is no substrate, then you can still have these types of plants successfully by having/leaving them in pots and add root tabs to those. In my experience, water column feeders (like java fern, most mosses, Pogostemon Stellatus Octopus and Brazilian Pennywort are some of my favorties) are generally the easiest. The PSO and BP can also be planted without use of aqua-soils or root tabs. Hope that helps. Thanks. Edited August 3 by JChristophersAdventures 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlhamSetiawan Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 On 8/3/2023 at 9:37 PM, JChristophersAdventures said: PSO and BP What is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JChristophersAdventures Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 @IlhamSetiawan PSO = Pogostemon Stellatus Octopus and BP = Brazilian Pennywort. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlhamSetiawan Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Will Tiger lotus, Hygro polysperma, Water wisteria, and Bacopa caroliniana grow in this condition? On 8/3/2023 at 9:53 PM, JChristophersAdventures said: PSO = Pogostemon Stellatus Octopus and BP = Brazilian Pennywort. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JChristophersAdventures Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 @IlhamSetiawan I can't really speak to the conditions in your specific set-up, but all of these plants you mentioned take nutrients from the water column, but can be planted as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueBeetle Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 The wire java moss mats from aquarium co-op are great for adding greenery. you can bend them around driftwood branches for a great look(example below), plus java moss is super easy to grow. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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