SuzanM Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Good day everyone. I have 2 three plus year old orandas in a 40 gallon breeder. They are feed NorthFin goldfish formula and Repashy Goldfish formula. I also periodically feed them peas and they are offered veggies and duck weed. I try and mix things up. And periodically fed brine shrimp. Water parameters ph steady 7.4, nitrates and nitrites remain at 0, no ammonia Gh 5 Kh 7. My larger oranda has been bottom sitting and becoming lethargic. No external issues noted. I was going to give her an epsom salt bath to start with then treat for internal parasites and go from there. I have had her for 3 years no issues until last week. She was originally purchased at Petsmart 3 years ago: Inam looking for any and all input. Very worried owner. Her name is Gracie . Thank you all in advance for advice. I can send pics later today if needed. I have also contacted a vet friend. Suzan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 What are your water parameters ammonia nitrite nitrate temperature have you introduced anything new in the least couple of months that could have bought in parasites is it eating ok any rapid breathing @SuzanM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzanM Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Colu Thank you for your response. ph 7.4; Nitrates and nitrites both zero. Ammonia zero. kh 7; g(h 5. Nothing new added everything same. No rapid breathing, no external signs just lethargy. I did get a response from a friend of mine who is an aquatic and reptile vet in TN. He noted orandas are pretty famous for getting tumors. That he did surgery on one earlier this year with a celomic mass with same symptoms as my oranda. I am going to do another water change and an epsom salt water bath and go from There. She is just not sifting through sand like she normally does. Sitting on bottom upright. she can swim upright and normally just no energy. Eating not too interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On 6/26/2023 at 6:35 PM, SuzanM said: Colu Thank you for your response. ph 7.4; Nitrates and nitrites both zero. Ammonia zero. kh 7; g(h 5. Nothing new added everything same. No rapid breathing, no external signs just lethargy. I did get a response from a friend of mine who is an aquatic and reptile vet in TN. He noted orandas are pretty famous for getting tumors. That he did surgery on one earlier this year with a celomic mass with same symptoms as my oranda. I am going to do another water change and an epsom salt water bath and go from There. She is just not sifting through sand like she normally does. Sitting on bottom upright. she can swim upright and normally just no energy. Eating not too interested. I don't think it's a parastic infection do the Epsom salt baths if your not noticing any improvement after 5 days of Epsom salt baths then I would follow up with a course of kanaplex or maracyn2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzanM Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Thank you Colu.I have Kanaplex ; Focus; Metroplex and Garlic Guard in my home kit. I will do salt baths daily for 4 more days then go from there. Suzan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzanM Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 I have attached a picture of Gracie before she became lethargic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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