BF McUmber Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Hello All, I have a group of CPD’s that I have been having issues with for about a year now. It seemed like things were better so I got some more fish and now one is showing similar symptoms which is concerning. Symptoms and question. When my CPD’s were dying it was frustrating and I did not keep track of exact numbers of how each one died. However, I think at least 4 of the Celestial Pearl Danios died in a similar manner which is my current concern. When I asked my LFS they thought it may be Fish Tuberculosis which would be a little tragic. I was wondering if any of you had any additional thoughts or confirmations to what I have seen. The symptoms and progression of the fish of note are as follows: They got some damage on their sides that looked like a few missing scales. The tissue under this area may get slightly inflamed such that it is larger than the other side of the fish. The fish may get a bend to their body along its length. The fish would lose control of their balance and start swimming on an angle and having to keep swimming to keep up. The fish would lay on the bottom on its side just breathing. Death or euthanization. It seems like the fish would live through the mark on its side for week or so and then would deteriorate quickly over a few days. I had a single CPD for about 4 months that did not appear to get sick, so I got her some friends to hopefully increase her happiness. Recently I had a brave little fish that wanted to take the gravel vac ride. In doing so she got a small amount of damage on her side (I am assuming that the fish with the damage took the ride solely based on timing). This small mark seems to be progressing in the same manner as the previous cases which is concerning. She has had the skin damage for about 9 days but in the past 3 she has taken a turn for the worse. She is having trouble swimming as well as having inflammation near the damage site. This made me wonder if it was the same illness that I had before, but it could just be complications from the damage. If you have any thoughts as to what you think it may be I would love to hear your opinions. Background I originally bought 12 fish about a year ago. Some of them were on the thin side but it was the first time that the shop had had them in over a year so I bought them. I treated them with the MED TRIO to try to get them healthy in quarantine. Fairly quickly a few of them died due to my inexperience and then the others intermittently died in various ways over the next 7 months. After all the death I ended up with one fish that thrived alone. After about a month of her being alone with some shrimp I decided to move my lipstick goby’s to the tank with her. I had the wild caught gobies for just under 2 years, so they may have been towards the end of life… but they died in the tank with the single CPD and amano shrimp. I also had an amanao shrimp get berried or have something wrong with it, unsure which it was I put some salt in the water and it cleared the fuzz and mass under their abdomen. After 3 months of being alone it seemed like the CPD was doing fine, so 2 months ago I bought 3 new CPD’s to keep her company and she was much happier. I put salt in the tank with the new batch and did not treat it with any medications. Over the next month the 4 CPD’s looked fat and happy. Finally the LFS got more CPD’s in so I got another female as well as a guppy for my guppy tank. The new CPD is a little thin at the neck and the stomach looks really pouchy compared to the other CPDs which are more torpedo shaped. However she was eating well so I tried not to worry. Then 9 days ago one of the CPD’s took a gravel vac ride. I cannot tell the two big females apart so I’m going to assume that the one that took the ride is the one that has the now damaged scales. In the past few weeks I have increased the salt concentration up to 2TBSP per 3 gallons. Additionally as the fish looked well I put some paracleanse in the tank a day after the fish took the gravel vac ride (8 days ago). It would be slightly tragic if it is fish TB because I really want to get the guppy in the tank over to the one i'm hoping to have him mate with before she gets too old. If we are scared that the tank has TB then i'll have to go get another guppy and put them in the tank without any quarantine which seems scary as well. Tank Parameters: 10 gallon tank with moss and hair alagae pH: 6.8 Nitrates: ~25ppm Hardness over 300 mostly magnesium Nitrite: 0 ppm Ammonia: 0 ppm KH/Buffer : 40 ppm Water Temperature: 74F Below are some pictures that I have. I did not photograph all the fish in man of the stages. Additionally it was terribly difficult to get pictures of the fish as they were moving. I think the one picture showing the bleeding fish is a much deeper wound than many of the other fish that seems to be much shallower. It is possible that the amano got to it at some point. An earlier death in the final bits of the sickness. One of the last fish to die with by far the worst skin damage One of the last fish with by far the worst skin damage sowing some axial deformity One of the last fish with by far the worst skin damage Current fish of interest Current fish of interest Current fish of interest Current fish of interest, but I think the camera or its swimming makes the spine look worse than it is. Also this one did not bleed from its wound when lifted above water. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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