Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) On Feb 14, I moved Kratos the nerite from the betta tank (80 degrees) to the 29g (78 degrees) because he was being attacked. I bag acclimated for 30 minutes, removing water and adding water at the 15 minutes mark. He crawled from the front to the back of the tank and dug half a hole, went in it, and hasn’t come out since. I tried to check on him but I cannot move him, he has the most powerful suction in the world. Last water change I noticed his poops around him, so I know he’s alive. Seems like an awfully long time to stay in the same spot. What can I do for the fellow? 80kh 180gh 7.5ph nitrate 25 nitrite 0 amm 0 chlorine 0 temp 78 Edited June 21, 2023 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennie Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I think he might be stressed and maybe lost his antenna or something when he was bullied. This might be causing him to be scared of opening. I would personally leave him alone and let him feel safe and comfy for some time, and make sure nothing disturbs him even us as humans. I think trying to move him may cause more stress, cause both being bullied by tank mates and changing tanks are stress factors anyway. As there is no way to cure snails anyway, I would just let it do whatever he wants to do Hope your lil friend does better soon and there is nothing to worry about 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) Thanks @Lennie. I put a catappa leaf next to him. He likes those. We will see what happens. Also just edited post to say what day I moved him. 2/14. Edited February 25, 2023 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennie Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 My nerite snails almost always sleep like this btw, half buried to substrate. Bait him with some juicy leaf mm! 😄 So he has been sleeping still for 11 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 2:26 PM, Lennie said: My nerite snails almost always sleep like this btw, half buried to substrate. Bait him with some juicy leaf mm! 😄 So he has been sleeping still for 11 days? Yes. He has done this before. This hibernating stuff. Just not for this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennie Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 10:28 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Yes. He has done this before. This hibernating stuff. Just not for this long. Do you think old age might be playing a role on that? Any clue about its age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) On 2/25/2023 at 2:31 PM, Lennie said: Do you think old age might be playing a role on that? Any clue about its age? Maybe. I don’t know his age. I’ve only had him a few months. Edited February 25, 2023 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 If he is pooping he is eating. There may be some crazy yummy stuff growing between the glass and substrate. I would not worry or change anything. If he is suctioning on he is not closed up or to stressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) The gentleman is still in his spot. Looks like he dug a little more. Edited March 3, 2023 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennie Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 3:08 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: The gentleman is still in his spot. Looks like dug a little more. He is Morty the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) Still there. Gentle nudge to check suction. Still very strong. It has been about 3 weeks. Edited March 5, 2023 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennie Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 12:47 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Still there. Gentle nudge to check suction. Still very strong. It has been about 3 weeks. that's really weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 4:54 AM, Lennie said: that's really weird Yeah I don’t know. I really think he’s hibernating. But he did dig more this week. Just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 He might just have found a very tasty looking piece of algae.🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnebuns Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 What kind of nerite is it? How long have you had it before the tank swap? All nerites can and at times do burrow but some species more than others. Hair nerites and king Koopa in my experience do the most but I have seen them all do it from time to time. Those 2 in particular tho rarely ever come up. The next one I would say spends a lot of time down there, and also has a firm suction cup so makes me think it might be, is red lip. I will say tho, eventho it is normal for nerites to burrow from time to time, and some to spend most of their time down there, for some species of nerites is can be an indication that they don't like something in the tank. More often they will just go for a walk if they are actually frightened. Once, when I added a yoyo loach, I had a nerite constantly leaving the tank until I let him live in a different one. But still, I have seen burrowing behavior happen during other changes as well. I once added a bunch of mystery snails and all the nerites burrowed much more than the previously had. Basically, it might just be a response to the change in environment or from being picked on in the previous tank. What else is in this tank with it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) On 3/5/2023 at 5:54 AM, Cinnebuns said: What kind of nerite is it? How long have you had it before the tank swap? All nerites can and at times do burrow but some species more than others. Hair nerites and king Koopa in my experience do the most but I have seen them all do it from time to time. Those 2 in particular tho rarely ever come up. The next one I would say spends a lot of time down there, and also has a firm suction cup so makes me think it might be, is red lip. I will say tho, eventho it is normal for nerites to burrow from time to time, and some to spend most of their time down there, for some species of nerites is can be an indication that they don't like something in the tank. More often they will just go for a walk if they are actually frightened. Once, when I added a yoyo loach, I had a nerite constantly leaving the tank until I let him live in a different one. But still, I have seen burrowing behavior happen during other changes as well. I once added a bunch of mystery snails and all the nerites burrowed much more than the previously had. Basically, it might just be a response to the change in environment or from being picked on in the previous tank. What else is in this tank with it? 11/19 is when I got Kratos, a king Koopa nerite. He was living with a betta. I had never seen the betta pick on him except one time when he was first added. Then 2/14 I noticed the betta trying to get at him, so I moved him. The betta tank is 80 degrees; the community tank is 78. I bag acclimated him 30 minutes, with a partial water swap at 15 min. I placed him on the sand and he went behind the PFS and partially burrowed and that’s where he is. 8 mysteries, 1 other (zebra) nerite, 18 tetras, 1 Bolivian ram, and 2 elusive shrimp. This is a pic of what Kratos looks like (not his current location) Edited March 5, 2023 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnebuns Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 That might explain it then. King Koopa snails are one of 2 that many sites categorize especially as a burrowing snail for a reason. In my experience, them and hair thorn nerites don't spend a ton of time above the substrate. It's actually the exact reason I'm considering getting more of them. They make for a great alternative to MTS for a substrate sifter. Not nearly as good yes but an option nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 6:03 AM, Cinnebuns said: That might explain it then. King Koopa snails are one of 2 that many sites categorize especially as a burrowing snail for a reason. In my experience, them and hair thorn nerites don't spend a ton of time above the substrate. It's actually the exact reason I'm considering getting more of them. They make for a great alternative to MTS for a substrate sifter. Not nearly as good yes but an option nonetheless. No kidding! I did not know. That’s cool. I feel better. He’s doing his natural thing. Thanks! 🙏 One time in the betta tank he went on an eating frenzy and ate basically all the algae in the tank in 2 days.. and there was a LOT! @Cinnebuns I took photos of his progress. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Then he took a nap or hibernate or whatnot for like 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnebuns Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 It's so incredible how much algae a nerite can eat. It's part of why I have to stop myself from buying more and more or I won't be able to feed them lol. Idk why, but I always get an urge to buy nerites. King Koopas are one of my favorite too as well as the hair nerite because of their double duty with helping the substrate. I like my racers too because they are pretty! They also have been my healthiest ones tbh. On 3/5/2023 at 5:11 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Then he took a nap or hibernate or whatnot for like 2 weeks. Food coma haha Tbh, I noticed them all do that. I keep 1 in my shrimp tank to help with some algae in there. She'll be super active for a few days cruising around and eating all the things and then be chilling above the water line sleeping for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 6:12 AM, Cinnebuns said: It's so incredible how much algae a nerite can eat. It's part of why I have to stop myself from buying more and more or I won't be able to feed them lol I supplemented him by swirling a little Soilent green Repashy in the water and also he latched on to a catappa leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnebuns Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 5:14 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I supplemented him by swirling a little Soilent green Repashy in the water and also he latched on to a catappa leaf. They will also eat driftwood. Mopani specifically is a favorite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 6:15 AM, Cinnebuns said: They will also eat driftwood. Mopani specifically is a favorite I had one in there for him but had to take it out because the betta was getting fin tears. Although I pretty much figured out it was tail biting. But I never saw Kratos latch to the driftwood. (Not mopani) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 5:04 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Yeah I don’t know. I really think he’s hibernating. But he did dig more this week. Just a little. Are you certain he is not out and about at night and returning to the same spot? My original Nemo used to do that. He had one spot he slept in for months but I would catch him out and about on night checks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 8:10 AM, Guppysnail said: Are you certain he is not out and about at night and returning to the same spot? My original Nemo used to do that. He had one spot he slept in for months but I would catch him out and about on night checks. Hmm good point. I will have to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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