Theplatymaster Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 This will be a thread where i will talk about my platy breeding project. Im doing this because i really like platies, hence my username. I have here a picture of the male im using for this project. the females would not cooperate for a picture, but ill try to get pictures of them later in this thread. to clarify slightly, in the second picture, there are NOT 4fish just 2 reflections. Also the male is the one with the red in the back, orange in the front, and the black stripe. one of the females im trying to breed (this male's favorite) is also in these pictures, the female is the yellow one with the red fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 What are your target colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 @TheSwissAquarist its rather complicated. But i want to take my male's colors, and breed in a blue sheen, and red fins. So my target platy has reddish fins, iridescent blue front, orange middle, deep red back, and than a stripe running through it. I have some work to do, its a good thing i really like these fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 12:45 PM, Theplatymaster said: have some work to do, its a good thing i really like these fish. Also they’re a fun fish. I would love to do some target breeding, but don’t have the space. Do you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 6:49 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Also they’re a fun fish. I would love to do some target breeding, but don’t have the space. Do you?? Probably not, but i will try very hard to pretend i do. I have a 5gallon tank that im using for this project, and could throw some into my 20gallon if needed. I will probably just have a very heavily culling process. (Culling meaning going to the LFS, im not killing them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 1:10 PM, Theplatymaster said: Culling meaning going to the LFS, im not killing them Wise decision, especially with the numbers you’re gonna have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 @TheSwissAquarist a few will go to my friend when he's ready for them. Yeah, my LFS will take platies from me, i try to bring them larger amounts when possible, and maybe get a trade for the platies. even though the fish dont work for my breeding project, platies are still popular fish,and people will buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) Update: I doubt i will get a good picture, i might have to bribe the fish with tubifex worms. This is relevant to this project definitely. its been a few months since i did a large platy send off to the LFS. a few weeks ago i was sad that i gave away my male and female tuxedo platies, because they looked stunning, it turns out one of the females i picked for this project is a tuxedo, and there is also a male in the main tank! I feel better now, adding a tuxedo to my setup will help speed things up slightly. especially since its the same size as the male. This will help because my goal is pretty much a edited tuxedo. Also i moved out a female from that tank, probably due to a size difference the male had NO interest in her, so there was no point keeping her in a suboptimal conditon any longer, im also having doubts whether i should actually do this project or just dont bother, as NOTHING has happened yet. Edited February 3, 2023 by Theplatymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Update Today: I noticed my male that i was trying to breed was picking females, there was only 1female the male would pay attention to, and breed with. I have moved this female out to my 2gallon tank, she is pregnant from this male and i will leave here there to give birth. I will need to keep monitoring the situation. If this male is stubborn and wont breed with the other females, i will try one of two things. 1.switch out the male for another of the same color pattern 2.add a male/introduce a male to the 2gallon right next to it. Let my target male know there is competition for his females. (I got this tip from Dean on a Aquarist Podcast episode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) Update: My first target male that i intended for this project has had a few problems. 1.Only bred with 1 of the females and than 2.Was mean to the rest of his femalefriends. So this platy moved up in life, literally. My 5gallon for this project is on the stand shelf below my 20gallon. So this male got moved back to the 20gallon tank, and i moved a very similar looking male to the 5gallon tank, hoping this one will be more peaceful, and less picky. the other thing in this tank is my Mini Ramshorn snails ( i have these snails EVERYWHERE because i like having little clean up crews for my tanks) have laid eggs in this tank, so more snails for me! Edited February 5, 2023 by Theplatymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 New update on this: (Am i only posting these updates for myself at this point): I have swapped the males. New male is not interested in females at the moment, but he is probably stressed out about the move. I will moniter his behaviour in this tank, and see if THIS male behaves, hopefully he will because i dont have any other platies of this color variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 Update: All target females have been impregnated by target males. the 3females are now in my 5gallon tank, with tons of moss covering the bottom. I plan to feed them well and keep them in this setup until they drop fry, then move them out. (I still need to figure out what to do as they will probably drop fry at different dates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Update its been a while since my last one. Not much has changed, as expected no fry yet, i have another 2-3weeks before the fish are done gestating. I have added Bio RIngs to the bottom of the tank for good fry protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 2:09 PM, Theplatymaster said: Update its been a while since my last one. Not much has changed, as expected no fry yet, i have another 2-3weeks before the fish are done gestating. I have added Bio RIngs to the bottom of the tank for good fry protection. Is there much cover in the tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) @TheSwissAquaristthere is moss and bio-rings covering the bottom of the tank, there are also big peices of coarse sponge just floating in the back. The point is to provide lots of hiding spots for fry in case i cant move the females once they give birth, i might remove 1/2 females though to give me better success rates. (so the other females arent predating on the fry i want to keep). Oof... MTS hitting me hard. If i had another tank i could still get fry from my target female, but i have no open tank space for it. update: Why am i doing this again? I had a target in mind, but ive lost the fish needed for that, i guess at this point this project has become Raise a bunch of platy fry and see what colors you get! Nothing wrong with that, just wont be my goal. I am trying to get the red back half into a tuxedo platy, thats the one i care about most. (One of my females in here is a tuxedo) Edited February 12, 2023 by Theplatymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Do you know the dominance of the traits? If not it may help to know their genome map, I’ll try to fish it out for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 This one seems to be pretty understandable and easy to use, better bust out them punnett squares! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 @The endler guy the project has fallen apart, i no longer know what im trying to acheive. Its now become "What interesting colors will i get" mostly i trying to add some red to a orange tuxedo platy, i am paying no attention to genetics at this stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/13/2023 at 1:13 PM, Theplatymaster said: @The endler guy the project has fallen apart, i no longer know what im trying to acheive. It’s now become "What interesting colors will i get" mostly i trying to add some red to an orange tuxedo platy, i am paying no attention to genetics at this stage. that is the best way to do things! Some of the most important things to happen have been accidental 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 @The endler guy its just me having fun with this project, it will also give me some more platies, which is good because i have a high demand for my platies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 unfortunately it looks like my female tuxedo platy might have Culimanaris, i dont have any good meds for it, but ive moved her to the 2gallon tank, and have doesed small amounts of salt, and will does maracyn. im hoping its not culimanaris and just a bump, and that my treatments help with the fish,i have no other tuxedo platies. however i haved moved back in my other female with some very intereseting colors on it, it almost has a turqoise sheen? crazy, i cant wait to see what that fish gives birth to, and what colors she ends up with, so far she is just grey with a black stripe and small amounts of sheen, but no major coloration yet. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 its been a while since i posted on this. im just waiting for these fish to give birth, i have another 2weeks i think, but ive been struck by another fish, a dark orange platy. i dont think i will botch these fish, but a future project might involve some orange/red platies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplatymaster Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 Update: this thread will no longer be updated. All further updates on this project will be reported on my main journal. (its just easier for me to organize it this way): here is the main journal link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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