eyeebrows Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 This fish is going to be the death of me. Noticed Leviathan has somehow done damage to his head. He was fine last night and this morning. The side not pictured looks like it's also missing a scale but a bit deeper, but it doesn't look like a hole in head hole. There shouldn't be any spots in the tank where he can get stuck as I've made the spaces big enough for the snail, who's larger. I'm really just wondering if anyone knows what it looks like because this fish is really trying me. (Darker red is the usual head colour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Are there any sharp decorations which he could rub himself on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Any chance he jumped at the lid or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 10:44 PM, TheSwissAquarist said: Are there any sharp decorations which he could rub himself on? On 11/30/2022 at 11:12 PM, nabokovfan87 said: Any chance he jumped at the lid or something? The rocks all feel smooth enough, and there hasn't been any issues yet. The lid is sort of dome shaped so I don't think he could reach it. As long as it isn't looking like something more than him injuring himself, I'll be happy. He was sick and tried dying on me when I got him and now I'm paranoid..but he also likes to get into any and all trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Yeah, I can't really rule out any sort of disease at this point. If you can, post a full tank shot so we can see what the surroundings looks like and let us know the parameters and everything going on with this fish. It definitely looks like missing scales, but sometimes that just the pattern on fish where they have what looks like a stripe/flat spot on their head as part of the pattern.@Colu what do you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 I'll try and get a photo of the other side of him and a good full tank shot in the morning. Will also check parameters so they're the most updated. Thanks for the help so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Possible injury swim into something in the tank I would add some aquarium salt 1 table for 3 gallons and monitor for a couple of days if you notice it get worse then I would do a course of kanaplex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 5:06 AM, Colu said: Possible injury swim into something in the tank I would add some aquarium salt 1 table for 3 gallons and monitor for a couple of days if you notice it get worse then I would do a course of kanaplex Will probably put him in the hospital tank to avoid adding salt in with the snail and plants. I've added API stress coat already but I don't actually know if that stuff works well for injuries or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) On 12/1/2022 at 11:47 PM, eyeebrows said: Will probably put him in the hospital tank to avoid adding salt in with the snail and plants. I've added API stress coat already but I don't actually know if that stuff works well for injuries or not. From what I have read the consensus is that stress coat does very little to help improve the slim coat of your fish and aid in recovery Edited December 1, 2022 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 3:51 PM, Colu said: From what I have read the consensus is that stress coat does very little to help improve the slim coat of your fish and aid in recovery Honestly I'm not surprised, but it was given to me so figured I'd give it a shot. Should I add anything else besides aquarium salt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 You can add some Indian Almond leaves or botanicals. You're basically just monitoring things right now to see if things improve, get worse, or remain unchanged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 As @nabokovfan87recommend Indian almond leaves are very beneficial to Betta's as they have antibacterial and antifungal properties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 He's been put into sad boy jail and I went and got more leaves today (had run out). I'll post an update in a few days to see if anything changes. Thanks again everyone for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 Update: little hole he managed to cause has healed up good, now he's just the scarred man. But now we're constipated and bloated of course. Also those are bubbles and not ick, epsom salt bath for constipation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I had a male ram who got wounded right above the eye a few weeks ago and sadly he passed last week : ( are there any tank mates that could have nibbled him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXInkedPhoenixX Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Daphnia for the constipation. (no peas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 9:16 AM, Aiden Carter said: I had a male ram who got wounded right above the eye a few weeks ago and sadly he passed last week : ( are there any tank mates that could have nibbled him? He only has a snail sibling. I have no idea where he injured himself but he definitely did it himself. On 12/12/2022 at 9:38 AM, xXInkedPhoenixX said: Daphnia for the constipation. (no peas) I only have freeze dried daphnia, I can't find any other version near me. I wasn't sure if the fact it's dried would cause an issue or not. But yes no peas don't worry 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Blue Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Aquarium salt will fix him right up. Bettas can and WILL find the stupidest places to wedge themselves, so you never know what may have caused it lol. Do you have any suction cups in there? Mine has scraped scales off shoving himself between those before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXInkedPhoenixX Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I only can find freeze dried myself- seems to work so you should be good. Don't forget a good ol' Epsom salt soak if the bloat continues. Sadly we also have to consider other illnesses but hopefully it's what you say it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 10:58 AM, xXInkedPhoenixX said: I only can find freeze dried myself- seems to work so you should be good. Don't forget a good ol' Epsom salt soak if the bloat continues. Sadly we also have to consider other illnesses but hopefully it's what you say it is! He gorged himself on snail food the day before hurting himself and getting moved to the sick tank, so I'm suspecting that. He had a couple giant turds and now it's pretty minimal. Pooped after the first epsom bath but I didn't notice any this morning after the second. There is no peace with this fish I swear. Thankfully there's no pineconing and he doesn't seem to be having any SBD symptoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXInkedPhoenixX Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Yea, they can be difficult little fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeebrows Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 I finally got him to flare poop. The damn SIZE of that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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