Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Hello everyone, Do you guys recommend keeping Amano shrimp with livebearers and two Gouramis in a 30 gallon tank? If yes, does any one know a good place to purchase Amano shrimp? Thank you in advance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I recommend keeping amanos with EVERYTHING except for what will eat shrimp. Amanos are awesome. I have been getting mine from aquahuna. When they say small, it's small. You get more, so that's cool but just expect some molts up front 🙂 Also.... WELCOME! Forgot that bit 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Eric_ Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 8:14 PM, Tropicalfishkeeping201 said: Hello everyone, Do you guys recommend keeping Amano shrimp with livebearers and two Gouramis in a 30 gallon tank? If yes, does any one know a good place to purchase Amano shrimp? Thank you in advance Yes - that will work fine. If you have any fish shops around you they should have some or there are some decent online places. Aqua Huna has a good reputation for quality and customer service but I have not ordered from them before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 7:46 PM, _Eric_ said: Yes - that will work fine. If you have any fish shops around you they should have some or there are some decent online places. Aqua Huna has a good reputation for quality and customer service but I have not ordered from them before. Thank you so much! I will check out this website On 8/11/2022 at 6:33 PM, nabokovfan87 said: I recommend keeping amanos with EVERYTHING except for what will eat shrimp. Amanos are awesome. I have been getting mine from aquahuna. When they say small, it's small. You get more, so that's cool but just expect some molts up front 🙂 Also.... WELCOME! Forgot that bit 🙂 Thank you for replying! I will look into this website 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 What soil is safe and good for shrimp and to start a planted aquarium? I wanted to do a planted aquarium with Amano shrimp and neocardina shrimp. Also is it safe to mix these two shrimp together in a 5 or 10 gallon tank Thank you in advance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 10:37 PM, Tropicalfishkeeping201 said: What soil is safe and good for shrimp and to start a planted aquarium? I wanted to do a planted aquarium with Amano shrimp and neocardina shrimp. Also is it safe to mix these two shrimp together in a 5 or 10 gallon tank Amanos you can keep on anything from gravel to specialty planted substrate. Neither one is best. Depending what your water parameters are you can use a soil substrate to lower PH if you need to. Typically this isn't an issue. I would not mix amanos with neos. I would keep one or the other. One tank, have the amanos, in the other have the neos. If your focus is on a shrimp tank, have a shrimp tank! But you'd have one species do not as well if they were mixed together. They don't really, and shouldn't compete or eat eachother. It's more about the difference in care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 10:55 PM, nabokovfan87 said: Amanos you can keep on anything from gravel to specialty planted substrate. Neither one is best. Depending what your water parameters are you can use a soil substrate to lower PH if you need to. Typically this isn't an issue. I would not mix amanos with neos. I would keep one or the other. One tank, have the amanos, in the other have the neos. If your focus is on a shrimp tank, have a shrimp tank! But you'd have one species do not as well if they were mixed together. They don't really, and shouldn't compete or eat eachother. It's more about the difference in care. Thank you! I notice sometimes my PH is low around 6.5-6.8 and other times its around 7.4-7.8. What can I do to keep the water parameters stable for a shrimp tank. I heard they are sensitive to Ph swings. Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to the hobby so I do not have that much experience. I really appreciate your help and to everyone who has replied to this post 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 11:29 PM, Tropicalfishkeeping201 said: I notice sometimes my PH is low around 6.5-6.8 and other times its around 7.4-7.8. What can I do to keep the water parameters stable for a shrimp tank. I heard they are sensitive to Ph swings. I would recommend doing what is called an off-gassing test. Essentially water comes out of the faucet and it "stabilizes" in a certain fashion based on some things being released and some things remaining in the water. There is a variety of parameters at play and to fully understand what is going on here, the best method is this test: 1. Take a sample of water from your faucet, test it for everything you can. 2. Aerate the sample of water for 24 hours with an airstone, restest everything that you can. 3. Compare the results from #2 to your tank parameters. When you do a water change, the ultimate changes you're making are going to be based on parameters from test #2, not really from test #1. Also of note, this post is very good at explaining what's going on and why you're seeing PH change (potentially)https://www.aquariumcoop.com/blogs/aquarium/ph-gh-kh On 8/11/2022 at 11:29 PM, Tropicalfishkeeping201 said: Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to the hobby so I do not have that much experience. I really appreciate your help and to everyone who has replied to this post 🙂 Not at all! Happy to help 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Eric_ Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Amanos with neos isn’t a problem in my view. the ph swings can be a problem- what is your ph out of the tap? have you tested gh and kh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 11:35 PM, nabokovfan87 said: I would recommend doing what is called an off-gassing test. Essentially water comes out of the faucet and it "stabilizes" in a certain fashion based on some things being released and some things remaining in the water. There is a variety of parameters at play and to fully understand what is going on here, the best method is this test: 1. Take a sample of water from your faucet, test it for everything you can. 2. Aerate the sample of water for 24 hours with an airstone, restest everything that you can. 3. Compare the results from #2 to your tank parameters. When you do a water change, the ultimate changes you're making are going to be based on parameters from test #2, not really from test #1. Also of note, this post is very good at explaining what's going on and why you're seeing PH change (potentially)https://www.aquariumcoop.com/blogs/aquarium/ph-gh-kh Not at all! Happy to help 🙂 Thank you so much for this, this is really helpful! I will definitely do this test, again I really appreciate your help! 🙂 On 8/12/2022 at 4:46 AM, _Eric_ said: Amanos with neos isn’t a problem in my view. the ph swings can be a problem- what is your ph out of the tap? have you tested gh and kh? Thank you for replying! I have to retest my tap water again because its been awhile since I last tested it but these were the water parameters out of my tap: Ph: 7.6, GH: 143.2 ppm and KH: 89.5 ppm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 11:09 AM, Tropicalfishkeeping201 said: I have to retest my tap water again because its been awhile since I last tested it but these were the water parameters out of my tap: Ph: 7.6, GH: 143.2 ppm and KH: 89.5 ppm Always happy to help! I would expect PH to drop slightly, but it looks like pretty good water to start with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Eric_ Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 1:09 PM, Tropicalfishkeeping201 said: Thank you so much for this, this is really helpful! I will definitely do this test, again I really appreciate your help! 🙂 Thank you for replying! I have to retest my tap water again because its been awhile since I last tested it but these were the water parameters out of my tap: Ph: 7.6, GH: 143.2 ppm and KH: 89.5 ppm You seem to be in a pretty good range. Ph can swing throughout the day but a point would be a big swing. Your kh is low-ish but I wouldn’t expect it to cause your ph to swing that much. Could be low in CO2 out of the tap so if you do the aeration test you would know if that is happening. Otherwise, your organics could be high as your tank sets up and plants go through initial melting etc. after that I wouldn’t expect it to go up too much unless it is right after water change. So you could limit the % you change at one time. or you could increase kh with a wondershell or something after that I’m out of ideas 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 11:20 AM, nabokovfan87 said: Always happy to help! I would expect PH to drop slightly, but it looks like pretty good water to start with. Oh, that's good to hear, I'm going to test my water like you mentioned in your previous post, again Thank you for your help! 🙂 On 8/13/2022 at 1:11 PM, _Eric_ said: You seem to be in a pretty good range. Ph can swing throughout the day but a point would be a big swing. Your kh is low-ish but I wouldn’t expect it to cause your ph to swing that much. Could be low in CO2 out of the tap so if you do the aeration test you would know if that is happening. Otherwise, your organics could be high as your tank sets up and plants go through initial melting etc. after that I wouldn’t expect it to go up too much unless it is right after water change. So you could limit the % you change at one time. or you could increase kh with a wondershell or something after that I’m out of ideas 😆 Thank you so much for helping, really appreciate it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalfishkeeping201 Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Hello everyone, I'm new to the hobby and I wanted to know if my water parameters are good for a shrimp tank and for keeping fish or do I have to make any adjustments? I currently have livebearers and two gouramis. I tested the water parameters using the freshwater Master test kit. I did the off-gassing test (aeration test ) and this is what I got: Sun 8/14/22 Tank water parameters: Ammonia: 0 ppm Nitrite: 0 ppm Nitrate: 0 ppm pH: 6.6 or 6.8 ( It was hard to differentiate the colors if it was 6.6 or 6.8 but looked more like it was 6.6) KH: 35.8 ppm GH: 196.9 ppm Results after testing my tap water ( Tested on 8/14/22) Ph: 7.6 High range ph: 8.4 or 8.8 ( It was hard to differentiate the colors but it looked more like it was 8.8) Kh: 125.3 ppm GH: 161.1 ppm Off-gassing test 24 Hr result (Tested on 8/15/22 (Mon after letting my tap water sit for 24 hrs with an air stone): pH: It was either 7.6 or 7.2 but looked more like it was 7.6 High range: 8.0 KH: 143.2 ppm GH: 179 ppm Water parameters of my tank after doing 50% water change yesterday on Tue (8/15/22): pH: 7.2 KH: 53.7 ppm GH: 143.2 ppm Thank you in advance Edited August 17, 2022 by Tropicalfishkeeping201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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