nabokovfan87 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 So I have been a customer of seachem for a while and sometimes ya just have to laugh at these choices. I have a tidal filter and want a second, small mesh zip style media bag. I can buy "the bag" or other media bags but those require a tie and I just don't want to deal with ties. I prefer the zips. So I finally found what I thought was their tidal equivalent bags on sale and purchased 3 so I can split out the crushed coral and add some to my HoB instead of the substrate. I get the box home, open it up and just sort of giggled. Apparently when they say small, medium, large they mean the mesh size and not the size of the bag. My mistake. So let's play a guessing game. What "size" media bag would you expect. Would you think it's the equivalent of a Tidal 75? Tidal 110? Nope! It's literally not even possible or feasible to fit into any hang on back or canister filter. It's only useable in a sump and it's got to be a pretty big one at that. See below. It can fit my entire forearm. Now I get to stuff all this crap wadded up into the HoB like it's filter floss. And.... Apparently, if I buy the branded media replacement stuff from seachem for the tidal HoB (matrix refill) then it doesn't come with a media bag. "Ideal for resins and small media" 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modified lung Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 A lot of people don't realize this but forearms make excellent filter media. 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a tired fish keeper Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) But why why wold they do this ther is no way that that is good for sales no one wants that Edited May 7, 2022 by a tired fish keeper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanked Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I would expect a bag that measures 32cm. x 14cm. I'm guessing that is what you got. The problem here is that clueless people were allowed to design and approve the packaging artwork. The important information wasn't included because they don't know anything about the product or it's uses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrencher_Scott Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Don't get me started on SeaChem and their BS. to be fair it does say the size of the bag though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 9:00 AM, Wrencher_Scott said: to be fair it does say the size of the bag though. I realize that.... just kind of dumb to me that, that is the "default size" they think we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrey Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 12:05 PM, nabokovfan87 said: I realize that.... just kind of dumb to me that, that is the "default size" they think we need. Not dumb. In a world where we are deliberately kept stressed, because it is easier to manipulate impulse buys out of stressed people, our brains take shortcuts wherever possible to maintain sanity. Sadly, people with degrees in psychology and sociology get paid far more to design packaging and advertising for large companies than can be made actually helping to heal society, leaving the packaging fulfilling its job of getting people to buy it. My biggest frustration with some companies is the lack of ability to blow up images so we can read the fine print before we buy. Don't beat yourself up, and now I wonder about the size of the mesh🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 1:20 PM, Torrey said: Don't beat yourself up, and now I wonder about the size of the mesh Definitely not doing that! 🙂 I just really have to giggle at seachem sometimes. "help me, help you" This is the mesh. The colored one from the tanins is the bags that come inside of the tidal filters and what I would call a "very fine" mesh filter media bag. hilarious to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrey Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 2:33 PM, nabokovfan87 said: Definitely not doing that! 🙂 I just really have to giggle at seachem sometimes. "help me, help you" This is the mesh. The colored one from the tanins is the bags that come inside of the tidal filters and what I would call a "very fine" mesh filter media bag. hilarious to me. Yeah, I definitely understand🤣 Like, 13 cm x 25 cm on zip tie bags, and then 32 cm x 14 cm (or 14 cm x 32 cm) on the line with actual zippers being labeled sm/md/lg at the top (and no micron listed? just "25 mesh/16 mesh/8 mesh"???) would have left me thinking the bags them selves were different sizes, especially since the information is in different places (packaging is not uniform). I hate shopping on a certain company website, because the information is never uniform, and it's hard to make the script large enough to read all the needed information without sacrificing access to about half the screen (accessibility is a joke). Thank you for posting this, you saved me from a similar mistake with a different company! On a side note, the large bags at 19' x 17' are perfect for using lava rock to help elevate substrate and can be stacked with soil in the small bags to reduce silt in the water column. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 Update. I bought the tidal "refill" of matrix so I could fill media in tanks and get it cheaper than wherever. They don't really have that stuff local so I just opted to see what on earth actually comes in this package. Funny enough, whomever informed/answered the question on amazon regarding how the item is packaged specifically said it includes only the media and not the bag. It indeed includes the actual "good" media bag they produce. So there is a way to get one of a reasonable size with fine mesh. The Tidal 55 bags are probably universally the best size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oghandaren Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) Sorry for the late reply! Marketing decisions sometimes end up being a head-scratcher! It's a good reminder that even well-established companies can have their quirky moments. This kind of mix-up could honestly happen to any of us, so it's all in good humor. For those in the marketing field, this is a great example of why having a team that collaborates well can prevent these kinds of eyebrow-raising moments. Speaking of teamwork, using marketing project management software is a smart move! It can help streamline processes, enhance coordination, and by optimizing workflows, teams can work together to create solutions that make more sense to buyers and avoid these amusing yet confusing situations. Edited August 21 by Oghandaren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennjiDK Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Buy your media bags on Amazon. There's hundreds of manufacturers with all different dimensions and pore sizes. You can get a 10 pack of whatever your looking for, for around $8. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now