Seed planting

[Casual aquatics]

Hello plant people I’m new at plants successfully have grown some nana plants and kept some lucky bamboo alive so just stepped up to an amazon sword grabbed a moss ball and another nana plant to try sneaking in my Oscar tank  my question is has anyone had experience with seeds growing plants what’s need etc or is it like any other plant so to speak 

[Brandy]

I have always been suspicious of seeds. I figure you don't know what you are really getting, how to start them, and with prices like that I strongly suspect growing these plants is more challenging than a chia pet. I could be completely wrong of course. But I think you are better off with something a little more tried and true if you are kinda new to plants.

[ange]

Most aquatic plants don't spread through seeds so you may run into some trouble down the line. A lot of people I've seen use them will have temporary success (especially when doing a dry start) followed by the plants melting in the longer term because they aren't meant to grow submerged. Common genuses sold for aquariums are Dracaena, Hemigraphis, Cordyline, Selaginella, Ophiopogon, and Acrorus.

Many of the "carpeting" or "grass" seeds are either semi-aquatic stem plants or terrestrial plants.

[Casual aquatics]

27 minutes ago, ange said:

Most aquatic plants don't spread through seeds so you may run into some trouble down the line. A lot of people I've seen use them will have temporary success (especially when doing a dry start) followed by the plants melting in the longer term because they aren't meant to grow submerged. Common genuses sold for aquariums are Dracaena, Hemigraphis, Cordyline, Selaginella, Ophiopogon, and Acrorus.

Many of the "carpeting" or "grass" seeds are either semi-aquatic stem plants or terrestrial plants.

So just in a hypothetical  your saying should be started dry or no success under water ? Or once grows then transplanted they die

[Brandy]

"Most aquatic plants don't spread by seeds" means these are most likely terrestrial plants packaged as if they were not. A "dry start" would work--you could get the same effect by planting lawn seed in damp tank substrate. They will sprout, but then when you fill the tank with water they will react as your lawn would if you built a pond on top of it. They will die.

This is what I have heard too.

There are plants that will grow in both submerged and emergent forms, but I would really be suspicious of their honesty. This is a case of "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is."

On the other hand, if you have $2.65 and some time to kill and you just can't resist, at least document your efforts for future questions! 🙂

[Waqas]

I tried them in a 20g, using a dry start, and I will say don't do it.

• The never attach / root  to the substrate, any fish or water change you do will displace them into water column.
• Each new plant that grows, almost immediately has 2-3 seeds on its root, which are stick, they stick everywhere and start to grow asap.
• The seeds also entered my hob, and started growing in the hob.
• Basically a mess that consumes time and energy.
• They die off very soon, I guess in 10-12 days, though new ones alway keep growing, and attaching to everything.

[Jack.of.all.aquariums]

I have yet to see anyone have long term documented success with seeds. I've see some documented use of them on other plant related forums where the seeds grew into hygrophila polysperma. This is on the federal noxious weed list so the sale of it and the seeds is technically illegal which is why I believe they are being mislabeled.

[Casual aquatics]

Crazy firstly your pics look good like a grass bottom secondary you said the grow there own seeds after and stick? Sure don’t want in water colum don’t want to ruin my tanks but almost as if you had luck just not constructive in the manner needed

[Casual aquatics]

Update: so when I got the seeds I wasn’t too sure about them. but they were cheap and I’m not made out of money but I like plants in my tank. so I kind of just threw them into a grow out tank and forgot about them Until today when I got another set of them and then I realized that I actually did have some progress or success not gonna Say that it’s fully success but I am at any rate there was a little progress I’m noticing that they stick to a lot of surfaces so if they make it to the substrate or you have driftwood or something and then they’re more than likely going to attach to that to grow. I’m gonna let him continue to grow. And keep updates as it goes on.

[Daniel]

I kept thinking the carpet plant seeds looked familiar.

They look remarkably similar to clover seeds like you use for sprouts for your salads.

This is what sprouted clover looks like.

The clover would last a week or two underwater before it finally succumbed.

 

 

[starsman20]

On 10/10/2020 at 10:45 PM, Brandy said:

I have always been suspicious of seeds. I figure you don't know what you are really getting, how to start them, and with prices like that I strongly suspect growing these plants is more challenging than a chia pet. I could be completely wrong of course. But I think you are better off with something a little more tried and true if you are kinda new to plants.

You may have just given me an idea.  Can I plant a chia pet in an aquarium?.......

[Daniel]

9 minutes ago, starsman20 said:

You may have just given me an idea.  Can I plant a chia pet in an aquarium?.......

If would probably work for at least a week!🙂

[Brandy]

45 minutes ago, starsman20 said:

You may have just given me an idea.  Can I plant a chia pet in an aquarium?.......

chia seeds get that gloopy sticky gel around them. I wonder if it is as yummy to fish as it is to us? lol I am picturing a Bob Ross chia pet...

[Brandy]

2 hours ago, Daniel said:

I kept thinking the carpet plant seeds looked familiar.

They look remarkably similar to clover seeds like you use for sprouts for your salads.

I think cotyledons look pretty similar on most seeds at that stage. That is part of what makes me so suspicious.

[Daniel]

13 minutes ago, Brandy said:

I think cotyledons look pretty similar on most seeds at that stage. That is part of what makes me so suspicious.

Agreed. You know the old saying 'you can't judge a plant by it's cotyledons'. I did have a Parks Nursery Herb book once and it was nothing but page after page of what each plant's seed and the resulting cotyledons looked like.

What I noticed in that particular photo were the seeds:

Those seeds resemble clovers seeds.