Goldfish + plants

[NoahT]

Good luck with crinum calamistratum and my fancies so far. Other plant recommendations?

[suzjohnson]

I’m still learning about plants so I’m in no position to make suggestions. Just wanted to say your set-up is very attractive. I hope to duplicate your success when I get that far. 😍

[NoahT]

The 3 fancies just got upgraded from a 40breeder to this 60gallon. Not sure about that big thing in the middle yet. For the cost of free to me I figured I'd toss it in and see what I think about it over the next few days.

[Nuggets Beard]

Mine leave Java Fern alone. 

[Biotope Biologist]

If it's legal in your area, elodea and cabomba love colder water and grow fast enough to allow grazing. I believe people have also had success with emergent plants such as pothos and lucky bamboo. 

 

I thought anubias would be safe but my goldfish ate the entire plant rhizome and all. It was a very healthy 3 foot long plant, still a little salty about that.

[NoahT]

On 12/19/2021 at 12:14 PM, Biotope Biologist said:

If it's legal in your area, elodea and cabomba love colder water and grow fast enough to allow grazing. I believe people have also had success with emergent plants such as pothos and lucky bamboo. 

 

I thought anubias would be safe but my goldfish ate the entire plant rhizome and all. It was a very healthy 3 foot long plant, still a little salty about that.

Poor anubis. My fancies ravaged 2 decent sized Amazon swords.

[Waka88]

Meh, I wouldn't upgrade a 40 breeder unless it was a 75.  The dimensions of 55 and 60 are vomit to me.

Confuses the hell out of me why they make large tanks tall and narrow.  What is it for, a billion nano fish?  

Once my fish get to 6 inches each, I'll upgrade to a 75 with a 2nd canister.

And on the 75, I'll do same with 40, no plants.  I grow bamboo using a Aquaclear 50 with nothing in it but ceramic biomedia and the bamboo, on a very slow flow.  The filtration is from a Fluval 407.  Future plan for next year when upgrade to 75 is to add probably another Fluval 407.  For the 75, probably upgrade the Aquaclear to a 110 to do the exact same thing, just add more bamboo 😄

Also I think goldfish are seriously the most underrated fish.  They are adorable, and constantly moving, doing weird things.  One of my Jikan spent the afternoon swimming downward against the flow of my air stone.  And I didn't know they were such sociable fish, they are constantly following each other, bumping into each other, and just being clowns.  

I know with larger fish tanks, people really are focused on cichlids or carnivorous fish.  But I think fancy goldfish may just be the best fish for a tank from 40-75 if you are just keeping 3-5 of them.  Don't do 4, 4 remember = death.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Waka88

[NoahT]

On 12/19/2021 at 11:36 PM, Waka88 said:

Meh, I wouldn't upgrade a 40 breeder unless it was a 75.  The dimensions of 55 and 60 are vomit to me.

Confuses the hell out of me why they make large tanks tall and narrow.  What is it for, a billion nano fish?  

Once my fish get to 6 inches each, I'll upgrade to a 75 with a 2nd canister.

And on the 75, I'll do same with 40, no plants.  I grow bamboo using a Aquaclear 50 with nothing in it but ceramic biomedia and the bamboo, on a very slow flow.  The filtration is from a Fluval 407.  Future plan for next year when upgrade to 75 is to add probably another Fluval 407.  For the 75, probably upgrade the Aquaclear to a 110 to do the exact same thing, just add more bamboo 😄

Also I think goldfish are seriously the most underrated fish.  They are adorable, and constantly moving, doing weird things.  One of my Jikan spent the afternoon swimming downward against the flow of my air stone.  And I didn't know they were such sociable fish, they are constantly following each other, bumping into each other, and just being clowns.  

I know with larger fish tanks, people really are focused on cichlids or carnivorous fish.  But I think fancy goldfish may just be the best fish for a tank from 40-75 if you are just keeping 3-5 of them.  Don't do 4, 4 remember = death.

I used the 60gallon because I got it for the cost of "come get it" and figured it was time for the larger water volume. But yes I agree, the foot print is weirdly narrow for the size if the tank.

[Gigrantor]

My fancies don't bother the java fern, but it also isn't really in their space either. My buddy, who has a very similar setup to you with 4 HUUUGE fancies, has good luck with crypts. He carpets them selectively so they still have substrate to churn. Might be an option for you, but you would obviously have to add some more substrate to plant! Good luck!

[Ixrayu]

I have 3 large fancies in a 75g with crypts, crinium and java fern. They do not bother the plants at all. They do have space to scavenge around as they almost constantly do. I have to agree that they are very underrated. Always constant activity!!!