Stephen Zawacki Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Hey guys so I know you have been wanting to see my tank for awhile here it is, a waterbox 10 long with a pair of apistogramma cacatuoides triple red. One question I have is what plants would you reccomed adding additional or would you leave it as is. Also, the pair of apistos are the only thing in the tank if I got some amanos would they fit with still being roomy. If not that is ok. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Looks like the start of a nice tank. Hopefully it will grow in very full and lush. I would give it time to mature and grow in a bit and then see if you need more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Ok thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 You could also link this to your signature as a journal of everything about this tank in one thread. Maybe ask a moderator to move this post to the photos journal section. I ask most of my question in my journal as well. Folks always respond and answer them. That way all your answers can be in one place as well. It would also help forum members to get ideas if they are looking for them for this type of fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Thank you the other question I have is these apistos I ordered online and came in yesterday they are very pale still I am pretty certain it is from traveling, but when should they start to color up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotope Biologist Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 It can take a few days to a couple weeks to color up. As for your other question I second @Guppysnail in letting your plants grow out. If you wanted a couple colonies of pygmy chain swords in the foreground would create the triple layer effect, but personally I like the contrast of bare sand and rock with the lush green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Thank you very much for all the info, now I have two more questions the first being if I were to get a few amanos to have a mini Clean up crew would that be ok or would that overstock the tank because no worries then, my second question is my light is the fluval nano, how do I turn it down so it is not an algae farm, because I have it on a kasa timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroPete Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Nice scape! How long has tank been set up? Tropica usually recommends adding 1 amano shrimp per 5 liters of water on day 3 after filling with water. In my experience, I haven’t added that many , usually 1-2 per 10 gallons, within the first week with no ill effects to shrimp. Of course, i also kept up with small daily or every other day water changes and testing. (Have you ever used their app for reminders on maintenance while starting up a tank? I personally really like it.) You could easily do a Nerite and 1-2 amanos. Also floating plants can help a lot with light / nutrient / algae issues, as plants grow in. Frogbit is easy to control in my experience. I liked the idea from @Biotope Biologist for dwarf chain sword in mid-fore ground (I suggest aligning it left to right around / behind rocks). Dwarf sag grows fast but E. Tennelus / H. Tennelum is another smaller type of dwarf chain sword that would look nice, too. Also I think most of the plants you already have would benefit from root tabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 foreground- micro sword, crypt parva, and any of the others suggested before should work. Pearlweed also can be trimmed to be a carpeting plant. Lots of root tabs down before you plant in that sand should help it take. midground- that Apisto cave is dying for some moss, otherwise love the clean look. Those swords will take up all that middle draping over the rocks. background- in front of the heater id put a crinum or another aponogeton. Great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudofish Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I love apistogrammas and pretty much all dwarf cichlids. Nice looking tank. I'd let what you have grow out some and see how it looks before adding any other plants. I don't know much about shrimp so can't really help there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Nice looking tank! I like to experiment with different plants so I’d recommend trying something that you don’t already have. Ludwigia Repens, Pogostemon Octopus and Bacopa Caroliniana are a few stem plants that I like. Java Fern and Anubias in all their varieties are great Epiphytes for attaching to hardscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Thx guys for all the info, also do you guys know how to dim a fluval nano light, because I have it on a kasa timer but don't know how to dim it. Also the female in the pair her tail fin is a little banged up from shipping, I am treating the tank with supratect, or will her fin heal naturally. Thx yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 1:26 PM, Stephen Zawacki said: Thx guys for all the info, also do you guys know how to dim a fluval nano light, because I have it on a kasa timer but don't know how to dim it. You can connect to it using the Fluval app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 You could use something on the surface to diffuse the light - either very tall italia val; frogbit; hornworth; lots of options but you want to diffuse the light - this is my apisto aquarium but don't copy my stocking - also the layout you might not like so ignore my scaping - also you need more stuff on the bottom like leaf litter or low plants where the fishes can hide - i have some guppy grass and stuff behind the driftwood where the fishes can hide when needed: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Ok thank you, I will take all of that into consideration, also when I connect the light to the fluval app, and I set the parameters I like, will the kasa timer still work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Thread moved to Journals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 3:50 PM, Stephen Zawacki said: Ok thank you, I will take all of that into consideration, also when I connect the light to the fluval app, and I set the parameters I like, will the kasa timer still work? You won’t need the timer because the app will control when the light turns on and off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Ok thank you, also Patrick I have one more question the female tail fin is a little beat up from shipping, I am treat8ng the tank with supratect, also will her fin heal naturally? thx yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 With increase water changes it should heal on its own if it's superficial damage to the fin am not familiar with supratect so am not sure whether that would help speed up the healing process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) Ok thank you the Supratect is what the king of diy uses in Canada, they are not aloud to use fish medicine so his fish store created this all natural plant based medicine, and he swears by it for treating fish, if you look up one of his videos about it, he explains it. So I have one more question with the females tail fin a little tattered, and banged up besides keeping good water quality how long does a fin that is like that generally take just so I have an idea if I have to take additional measures. Also how long does it typically take for them to color up they are still very bland, is it something that since they were shipped it will take them awhile, or is that their full color also don’t know if this changes anything, but they are both very active and eating in the two days of being in the tank.? thx yall Edited November 13, 2021 by Stephen Zawacki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) ok yall so I have some bad news, when I was gone over the weekend my heater broke in the tank resulting in shocking my pair of Apistogramma cacatoides. I got a new heater, and now have to get another pair I have decided to get a pair of Apistogramma ortegai pebas heard their pretty new to the hobby and really rare, my question is that they are wild caught from Peru the seller has already quarantined them do you recommend me doing anything and also will the xtreme nano cichlid pellets work. Also the journal that was created for my apisto tank they will be going in that 10 gallon long waterbox species only. Thx yall Edited November 17, 2021 by Stephen Zawacki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 You created another new topic. I merged it with an existing thread. Please respect the forum like the other members. This is getting tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Thank you I don’t know how to get to the journal and how am I being disrespectful Edited November 17, 2021 by Stephen Zawacki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I put your journal in your signature. You only post new threads and do not participate in any threads from other members. Keep your existing threads going rather than starting new ones on the same topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Zawacki Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 A few questions where is my signature also the reason I was always making new threads was I was never explained to where my journal or old entries were that is the first thing also even though I have been in the hobby for two years I’m still pretty new so when I see topics I usually don’t want to reply, because I don’t want to give false information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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