CT_ Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I was able to pick out a couple medaka eggs and this time they're in methylene blue so hopefully they won't cloud up and die. I didn't take a photo at 1 day post fertilization but this one is at about the 2 dpf point. At 1dpf, I could see the oil droplets coalesced into 2 drops (no photo). Today (day 2 pf) there's one obvious oil drop, a large yolk and embryo. For reference, below is roughly 1 day(a) and 2 days(b) from an article taken with a much better microscope. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Oooo definitely following! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) I was going to do one a day but I can't help my self. here's T=2.5dpf. We have eyes now. The eyes should get black pigment soon (withing hours if what I read was right). Also the egg has been rolling around collecting more dirt. They're covered in cilia to help them stick but they also collect dirt. Edited August 19, 2021 by CT_ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Very cool to see and watch as they develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Weird, I thought I posted this morning but it didn't go through. Sorry if this gets posted twice. Here's T=3 dpf. Today I caught it on its lateral (side) view. There's a little eye pigmentation now but they should look fully black soon (top photo). There's also a heartbeat now too! bottom photo (animated) between the eye and the oil spot. EDIT: adding T=3.5. eye pigments! Edited August 20, 2021 by CT_ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 That is so amazing! Thank you for sharing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centraloregonaquatics Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 This is amazing!! Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 6:03 PM, CT_ said: There's also a heartbeat now too! bottom photo (animated) between the eye and the oil spot. Awesome vid! Love it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 T=4 dpf A little bigger. I saw it twitch in the egg but it wasn't frequent enough to catch on video. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Ooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 T=5dpf Lateral view. I can see pupil and iris now! Also this is a mostly closed container but somehow more dirt keeps accumulating. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Playz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 This is so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tami Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 so cool - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) T=6dpf, I think this is a ventral view with the tail wrapped almost all the way around obscuring the eye. If I mess with the light too much the embryo will twitch and reposition inside the egg. I used two sets of tweezers to remove some of the fuzz of what ever is collecting on the egg and was able to get some better photos. You can now see some of the vasculature around the yolk. below is a drawing (taken from doi:10.1016/j.mod.2004.03.012) for reference so you know what to look for. Edited August 22, 2021 by CT_ 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 T=6.5dpf I cleaned my microscope a bit, changed the water and detached this guy's sibling from dieing duckweed. the sibling is a lot cleaner so I'm switching photoing it. Turns out shallower water and a not terribly dirty microscope goes a long way for photo quality. I took another video too (full video herehttps://streamable.com/v2g21s, quick gif below ). you can see them twitch some too now and if you look really close you can see blood cells flow (the video compression unfortunately makes that a bit hard). 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Woooow!!! That’s a great video!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatyourpeas Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 What an amazing thread! Thanks for sharing the wonders we can't see without magnification! 😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 honestly its making me want to buy another microscope... I guess I know how I end up with so many gadgets now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 T=7.5 dpf Not sure how these guys are supposed to last another 3 days in there. they're getting pretty big for their eggs! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 T=8.5dpf I think they should hatch in about two days now. they're getting really long and are all curled up. Also took another video since these guys are getting more wiggly by the day. https://streamable.com/ag3to2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 wellp. I took those photos above at about 4pm today and then posted them after dinner. I looked over about an hour ago(8pm) and all I saw was this: Then I looked closer and saw this! I guess either she had laid and held the eggs an extra day or its hotter than the 27-28C average I thought it was in here. I guess I can test if they'll eat within hours of hatching now. I've read conflicting things. 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Ahh yay!!! Let me know when they start eating. I’m trying to breed ricefish as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 they didn't take any of the food I offered today. I found a journal article saying their yolk lasts 3 days past hatching and that they don't need food in that time period. Its unclear to me when they'll take food though but I don't have to worry until Friday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemBob Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 This is great! Thank you for documenting this. Its very interesting to see their development on the eggs, especially since I don't have the equipment to do so myself. I love this forum for the ability to share items like this with others! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 Coming up on 48 hr. Its really hard to see if they're eating but they're doing eating like twitching of their heads (but I don't see anything in their stomach). The water is barely blue now so I'm going to add some moss after my next water change tonight and some green water in addition to the serra micron just so they have choices. I also heard they develop better in sunlight (maybe a superstition though) so they're getting 12ish hrs of 10,000 lux (similar to a cloudy day, but feels super bright indoors) light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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