Jumbo Slim Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 This is really awesome! What is your PH and water hardness? Where'd you get your original stock? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:22 PM, Jumbo Slim said: This is really awesome! What is your PH and water hardness? Where'd you get your original stock? Thanks! My pH in this tank (at work, not at home) is up around 8.0 pH, if I recall. Hardness is middle-of-the-road. I messaged a breeder online about stock. We want to respect community guidelines here on the forum, so I'll refrain from mentioning the name here. Shoot me a PM, and we can follow privately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 Here’s a peek at the happy (older) shiner fry looking down from above… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 Here’s the new baby R. Shiners, free-swimming today… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineSong Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Great videos and I love your attention to detail in caring for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Breeding again today! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Here’s the yield… I plan to try M-Blue in tank water with very gentle aeration this time… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Here’s my approach to spawn #3: (1) Use Lees Small Specimen Container with a drop or two of Methylene Blue in tank water and a light air flow. (2) Remove egg tray, move rocks out, draw out eggs, and put into the m-blue hatchery container. Here’s the eggs visible on bottom of stone tray… And here’s the “haul” after all stones are removed… Here’s a look at eggs drawn out in syringe… Here’s the hatchery container… And here’s the batch of eggs on floor of hatchery… This is a fun stage of fish breeding. I’m confident enough to experiment! If this fails, I won’t fail to LEARN! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 This is so amazing. Life is so exciting! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 BOOM!!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihshho Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 How many did you start with for your initial school? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 9:37 PM, Tihshho said: How many did you start with for your initial school? Long story short, the breeding group of adults was about 24x total. I started with more, but lost about 10x along the way. They really like flow, but I discovered that the small Hydor powerhead I started using was so exciting to them, they were wedging their heads in between the opening slots… thus decapitating themselves! A few others were genetically weak and succumbed to misc issues. I had at least one jump out of the tank. Short answer: 24 But, you really only need a group of 7-10. As long as you’ve got 2x females, you’re good to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihshho Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I sourced some from a place I was going to put an order in once I've got my QT's back up. Might just have to tag these onto the order. I'm going to dig and check out more about them, I'm mainly concerned with when I keep them indoors about temps being too high for them and in turn burning them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Slim Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 This is awesome! Thanks for the updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 10:25 PM, Tihshho said: I sourced some from a place I was going to put an order in once I've got my QT's back up. Might just have to tag these onto the order. I'm going to dig and check out more about them, I'm mainly concerned with when I keep them indoors about temps being too high for them and in turn burning them out. They’re fine for me at up to 74°-F room temp. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 I’m still learning this process - dialing things in. There’s been a “die-off” of the most recent batch of fry. About 1/3 - 1/2 are dead in the container. Ammonia levels will have spiked. So, here’s a video showing the clean out of dead, preservation of life. The living fry go immediately to the cycled Java Box for best chances of survival. They should be able to free-swim in 2-3 days if they survive. There is an older batch in there. So… hoping they make it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihshho Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I can't remember who it is on here, but the other person who does shiner breeding changes the water every 12-24 hours if I remember correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 12:10 PM, Tihshho said: I can't remember who it is on here, but the other person who does shiner breeding changes the water every 12-24 hours if I remember correctly. That’s good to learn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Im so sorry bro for the loss! I sometimes forget to think that with all of your success with fry you do experience loss as well. Thank you for showing us both sides of the coin to breeding fish. You inspire all of us daily! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 I’m going all-in on Rainbow Shiners. This will mean that I’ve got to free up tank space. Hard decisions… I’m going to move along these Dwarf Gourami. They are fun, wicked-smart fish. My breeding ended up yielding just one fry in the end. I’m going to remove the heater from the 20 gal long, and let it cool before adding shiner fry. I’ll be bidding these lovely fish goodbye… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihshho Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 By the time you have all these fry grown up you'll need a 125 just to fit them all without water haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 One minute in Adult Shiner tank… One minute in 1-month-old Fry net… One minute in newly hatched Fry box… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Just caught them “cooling off.” Hard to make out, but eggs have been dropped… So! They’ll be pulled, and set into M-blue like before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Got more gunk in this time. Oh well… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Rainbow Shiner fry batches 2-3 are combined, doing well… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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