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  1. Yay or Nay? Side project ... mini butterfly koi look-a-like
  2. Does anyone have experience keeping these two fish.. together.. in the same tank? My plan is, 14 WCM and 20(ish) Tiger Barbs in a 40 Breeder. I've seen people say they should be fine, and others say something quite the opposite. I think the minnows will school tighter (they basically don't right now, it's them and a goldfish in the 40b) and the barbs will eventually ignore them. It'll be planted pretty heavily as most of my plants are already in there and my plan for my 55 (tiger Barb current home) does not include plant friendly fish. So, any advice, tips, concerns? Thanks in advance! 🙂
  3. TLDR; What do I need to do before restocking a tank that had Neon Tetra Disease in it? 15 gallon tank with 13 long fin White Clouds (originally, down to 5 currently), also 3 ammano shrimp, a bunch of snails. Planted. Nitrates usually 20-40, 0 nitrites and ammonia, rock hard water (19 deg?), 72-ish degrees. I got this group of WCs from a breeder almost a year ago. I made a rookie mistake and tried to save on QT meds and quarantined them with some Petsmart Endlers that had callamanus worms. Went through a whole lot of work to clear that up with levamisole and didn't loose any of the WCs and everything was fine for several months. But then one day I found a corpse. I lost another a few months later. A few months later I noticed white lumps under their skin of all of them. Some got dropsy before passing away, some got bent spines. I did another round of quarantine trio and then a full treatment of ich-x and maracyn. Now I'm down to 5 (and several of those are soon to pass). I feel like the signs are pretty solid that they have NTD and I'm not sure if they came that way from the breeder and it's just taken this long to take them down or maybe those sickly endlers gave that to them as well. But I'm resigned that they will likely all pass soon enough. So my real question is what will I need to do to the tank before I can safely put new fish in it? Can I just run it without fish for a month or two and then restock? Do I have to break it all down and bleach it all? Can the shrimp/snails/plants go into other tanks without problems? I had broken up some larger plants from this tank and put them in other tanks (before I realized what I was dealing with), should I assume those tanks are contaminated now too? How do I move on from here? Thanks
  4. I'm currently doing a fishless water cycle and picking out my fish for a 75 gal and was wondering if I can you keep White Cloud Mountain Minnows with Hoplo Catfish.
  5. My girlfriend got a bunch of tetras from petsmart and this is the only that survived, what type is he so I can get him a proper school and properly medicate/quarantine them this time.
  6. I have so many white cloud fry I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them all. They are sure amorous little fishies! Geez, they are like guppies. I have them in three tanks in the house and in a small tub/pond outside. I just noticed tiny fry in the one outside. The fry in my 20 gal. long are getting pretty big. I guess I'll have to move the adults to my 40 gal with the ember tetras so the tetras can do a little white cloud birth control (hopefully). 🐟🐟🐟
  7. I was wondering what would be recommended for maximizing white cloud fry production. If I feed the parents well and provide lots of cover, will they not predate on the eggs and young, or do you think I'd have more success producing high numbers of fry by somehow separating them from the parents...and if so, what strategy do you use for separation? Thank you
  8. I wanted to pick some up but I was wondering if the longfin albinos are fertile?
  9. Hi all! I wanted to get some advice on breeding some white clouds. I bought 12 about 3 months ago and I put them in a ten gallon with tons of Java moss and spawning moss but I haven’t really seen any action. Am I doing something wrong? Any advice? At what age do they start breeding?
  10. Brought this 5.5 gal tank back from a semester in a grade school classroom. It started with 5x golden White Cloud Mountain minnows. And now it’s a colony. Blonde with red stripe, bright eyes, red fins, white tips... these are great! If anyone wants to see how great these fish can be if selectively bred, check out @WhitecloudDynasty for lots of tips and insights. All I know is that I keep them hidden away underneath/ inside a tank cabinet. I feed them 2x a day. But most of the time, I nearly forget they’re there at all... I almost forgot to feed them tonight, and was captivated by their beauty! Great option for nano tanks.
  11. So I have Platinum Medaks and Golden White Cloud Mountain Minnows and a spawning mop in a 100 gallon outdoor Rubbermaid tub. And there are eggs visible in the spawning mop. Any way to tell which eggs they are? How about if I separate them out and they hatch into fry? Can I tell them apart as fry? How old until they get big enough to tell apart? At what point will I be able to differentiate the species? Thank you for your input!
  12. Have about 20-30 White Clouds in an outdoor pond. The Water temp varies between 55-60, prob warmer when it heats up. Have had them out there for a month or two and no eggs or fry seen. I have seen maybe 10 die but not sure why. Have some Java Moss, hornwort, frogbit and water lettuce. Any suggestions to induce spawning.
  13. My whiteclouds overwintered in the Pacific NW. Just look at that green water! I've been putting my plant cuttings from my tanks in here for about the last month (not shown here because I was doing a water change and cleaning). I put some stuff from the bottom in a jar for a little experiment for my granddaughter. It has some salvinia floating on top. I'm excited to see how it goes this year. I really wasn't expecting much since it's such a small amount of water. How fun for the grand kids to learn.
  14. I dont know how I feel about these. If I continue.. would you ever want to see them in your store one day @Cory ? @Robert? Will it be worth my time?
  15. I've read through several fish profiles for White Cloud Minnows but there seem to be a lot of generalities listed ("brine shrimp but don't forget some vegetable matter, a good flake food, maybe daphnia etc.") I was just going to pickup some brine shrimp I'm not clear if I can feed that alone. Can anybody recommend some of the specific products they use for their minnows so I can be sure I'm buying the right thing or things? I'm probably making this harder than it is but just want to be sure I don't miss anything. Thanks!
  16. Kind of a funny story. A while ago I had a 10 week old WCMM swimming around in my tank, I'm assuming my WCMM's bred before I rehomed them, and I was doing some mulm vacuuming, doing this required me temporarily removing some plants, which I put into a small 5 gallon box full of water I was intending to use as a shrimp breeder, so I pull the plants out, put them in the box, then put them back in the tank. Two days later, I'm preparing to cycle it, so I go ahead and check the ammonia levels, and in the middle of the test I notice something moving in the tank, and it turns out, it's the baby white cloud! Presumably the morass of stem plants I have acted like a net as I was pulling it out, a couple of minutes later I look back at the ammonia test and it was 4ppm. So this 10 week old fish lasted two days, utterly neglected, in 4ppm of ammonia. If you're a new hobbyist, get a school of white clouds, maybe 8/10 in a 20 gallon long, they will likely shrug off most beginner mistakes.
  17. I'm going to start an outdoor pond with a 100 gallon stock tank. How many Long Fin White Cloud's would you recommend starting with so that they breed like crazy?
  18. There is one fish (out of four white cloud minnows) that seems to be lacking oxygen for some reason. I recently installed a CO2 pump, could this be affecting the fish? Do I need an air pump to balance this, and why is it one particular fish? Apologies, my camera is a dinosaur. Any advice would be helpful, thank you.
  19. So I have five white clouds, the first fish is what they used to look like, and the second is what four of them look like now. I recently converted my 10 gal to a 20 gal. You can see on the first fish that he's starting to look like the second. What is this? I noticed that my zebra danios had this years ago for quite a while, before someone pointed this out on these fish I didn't think to ask...which one is 'normal'? (sorry couldn't get a super good pic) edit-I recently popped some pond snails in for the assassin snails to eat/bc I wanted to get rid of them+2 more pics (fish is getting darker)
  20. One of my long fin white clouds has a growth near his eye, but it is not on his eye. It looks a bit like a wart, doesn't seem to bother him, but does me. I have isolated him and treated him with Maracyn, but no change, could this just be a harmless growth or should I try something else. Thanks.
  21. Anyone have any parameters for Whitecloud minnow water hardness? I am currently running 15-18 GH and 15-18KH. Should I dilute with distilled water or is this range acceptable?
  22. I am wondering what to feed my whiteclouds? Are tropical flakes okay even though they are cold water fish? I currently have been feeding extreme krill flakes with some freeze dried bloodworms/ brine shrimp. Does this sound good or can I improve?
  23. So I bought white clouds from a petsmart a while back (20) and I ended up with 10 surviving to today (months/1year later?). I brought in my water to be tested and it was within parameters so they refunded me the dead ones (they were young and it turns out they had gotten to the store the day before) I was feeding them some bug bites along with frozen brine. They grew and a few got really round and they started dying (the ballooning ones). I ended up stopping feeding them frozen brine and I didn't have any more deaths. I now feed them a couple good flake and live baby brine. They have been through two treatments of para lense in October. Nobody has died since that first month but I have one that is super balloon-like, not just female looking. I am hoping to breed them in tubs this spring but could this fish have parasites that would pass on to offspring? Should I be worried or because nothing has happened just leave good enough alone? Blurry pictures because they won't stand still
  24. New to the hobby! I just added a pair of mountain minnows two weeks ago. I am lucky enough to be local to aquarium co-op... Brought them home and could easily see that the female had a very full belly, but thought nothing of it. Well, I got lil ones all over. About 15! That's all good but I think maybe I ought to get the breeding pair separated. Thoughts from the community on this? Rehoming one or the other etc.
  25. I am unintentionally breeding cloud minnows in my snail tank. I used them to cycle my main tank. So this has lead me to some thoughts and questions. What do you do with the babies when they grow? How do you get into becoming a professional fish breeder? THANKS
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