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  1. I have a a shipment of fish coming in later this week and I need advice on the best method of quarantining. I have a dedicated 9 gallon tank I use for quarantine. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to quarantine 7 platties and 6 Julii corys together for 1-2 weeks in such a small volume of water. If need be I can set up an "emergency" 10 gallon quarantine tank with spare equipment to split them up but it wouldn't be ideal for my living situation & I'm not sure I trust this 10 gallon to hold water. I really don't want to wake up to a blown-out/leaking aquarium. I'm going to use the med trio and feed once lightly on the 3rd day of quarantine. Any suggestions?
  2. LeeLee

    Fritz Expel-X

    On impulse I bought new fish last night. I thought I had the med trio at home but wasn’t positive so I bought more. They did not have Paracleanse so I bought Fritz Expel-X. Fortunately I had Paracleanse at home so used my last dose. Does anyone know the difference in Paracleanse and Expel-X? I need to order the trio.
  3. Hello Everyone. I'm very new to the hobby and I'm really stressed and horrified right now. I really need help. I hope someone has experienced this and can share how they dealt with the situation. I have only done the med trio on panda cories, albino cories, black neon tetras, zebra danios and peppered cories (on separate occasions). Only the peppered cories had such drastic effect on these meds. I am baffled because I got them from a hobbyist. Before the trio, I observed them for almost 2 weeks fed them regularly (frozen brine shrimp, shrimp sinking pellets, micro pellets) and made sure the water was clean. I used test strips as well as the API Master Kit constantly and water change accordingly. (0Nitrite 0Ammonia) I noticed the peppered cories were energetic, eating, very responsive, looked way healthier than the fish I got from big pet stores (such as panda, albino cories, black neon tetras) so I was very confident to do the med trio. I have a 20Gal Tank so I put 10ml Ich-X, 2 Packets of both Paracleanse and Maracyn. I have an airstone running, heater, filter (I took out the carbon for the meds), thermometer, live plants, hiding places. I currently have small zebra danios, and pepered corydoras in this tank. Only a few hours after the meds (nitrite .25 & ammonia 0) I noticed all the peppered cories seemed like they all had swim bladder disease. For example, they're like swimming on the moon, like the gravity is working against them, some would float just still on top then after a quick nudge from another cory or me they would swim slowly to the bottom, a few make it okay to the bottom, while the rest just let themselves go back up again. Their eyes are still moving, still breathing it's just not normal. I had the lights off and left them there tried to not stress them more. After 10/12 hours or so, the situation seemed worse, so I did 20/30% water change and put the carbon filter back on. I was so stressed going to bed because I didn't want to wake up to dead cories. More than 24 hours has passed and still no deaths but I did another 20/30% water change. I think the cories are still getting worse I can't really tell at this point. I'm going to do more water change later. Has anybody experienced this? I've only found one forum just like my situation The mixed responses I've been getting: never a good idea to medicate fish when you don't know what's wrong with them, cories are scaleless and don't tolerate meds well, you're better off putting them in a tank for weeks and watching them in the future now that I reflect on my experience I have lost 4 panda cories while on the med trio but I thought that was because they were sick and weak already when I got them *3 albino cories, 2 panda cories, 6 black neon survived my first med trio don't overdo dosing meds, start low and work up stress from uncycled tank and meds at the same time I made sure with both test strips and API Master Kit that nitrites & ammonia was 0 before I decided to do the trio. Although, I don't think my tank was fully cycled - however, my fist batch of fish that I did the med trio on were also on an uncycled tank but none of them floated like how the peppered corydoras reacted to the med trio Are there other ways to quarantine my peppered corydoras now? Aside from fully cycling a quarantine tank, what could I have done different?
  4. Are corydoras especially sensitive to meds? I recently purchased some False Julii and Peppered cory cats today and placed them in a quarantine tank with 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrite, and 10 Nitrates. . I used the Med Trio and now some of the Peppered corydoras are now floating at the top upside down. I can still see there gills moving, and sometimes they'll move around at the top, but still upside down. The False Julii seems to be doing fine. I just received them cory cats today and medicated them as well with the Trio, so I'm not sure what else to do.
  5. Hey guys! so I’d like to add some corydoras and ember tetras to 2 of my established aquariums, and I am planning to putting them in quarantine with the med trio. My question is can I quarantine 2 different kind of fish at the same time? Is there a reason I would need to quarantine them and medicate them separately? Thanks in advance, Rita
  6. Is the quarantine medication trio (Fritz paracleanse, Mardel Maracyn, and Ich-x) safe for beneficial bacteria and plants? I’m mostly worried about the Mardel Maracyn because many have said it does harm beneficial bacteria as it’s active ingredient erythromycin can attack nitrifying bacteria. Some say it only affects beneficial bacteria in newer tanks which I may fall into that category as my tank just finished cycling. I figured I could use the medication trio in my cycled, planted tank for my betta fish as it will be the first fish introduced to the tank but how is that possible if Mardel Maracyn affects beneficial bacteria? I really wouldn’t want to have to fish - in - cycle if the maracyn were to kill the beneficial bacteria with the betta fish in the tank. Thanks 🙂
  7. Hi ~ It happened again.. 🙂 Went to the LFS to ORDER fish .... and unexpectedly came home with 10 pygmy corydoras that have been sitting there for a while. I ordered 5 more panda corydora to compete my Cory gang, and 10 more pygmys as well.. They are so cute and small. they are in a 10 QT tank does anyone know if these guys take the QT tri meds well? I follow the Cory's Protocol, and have had no issue up to now. But wanted to ask the more experienced first.
  8. I thought I would give information to people in UK to use for Qarantineing meds Esha gdex active ingredient is praziquantel for external parasites and Esha 2000 treats mild external bacterial infections and fungal treatment it recommends doubling the dose if you GH is below 4 when treating with Esha 2000 Esha exit for ich can be used together
  9. Following recent help I've received about fish medicines and a potentially sick otocinclus I've been thinking about my own future plans for a med trio. I'm in the UK and it's hard to get hold of the 'good stuff' that you Americans get (can order some on eBay but it's expensive and not sure if it will actually arrive but fingers crossed). So in the nearish future when I have my fish room going I will mostly have species tanks - is it ok to use the med trio in a planted tank? I hope to reduce stress on the fish when I first get them by putting them straight into their planted forever homes and as they will be the first fish in the tank I was hoping I don't need a separate quarantine tank for them. Is this possible? Secondly I think I can get hold of SeaChem Kanaplex and Metroplex, and I can definitely get flubendazole based de wormer - would these work as an alternative Med Trio? If so how would I use them, just follow the instructions or just do like a single dose of each (not necessarily together) like the Co-op does their med trio? Also how would this affect the filter bacteria etc, should I keep the sponge filter out and just run an air stone until the meds are removed with water changes? Any experience/input is greatly appreciated! I sort of hope that we come up with some good solutions for myself or any future person googling meds from the UK or EU to stumble across, I know this question comes up occasionally. Hope everyone's having a great day!
  10. Would love some insight in trying to figure out if I am doing something wrong or if it was just luck of the draw. Would love for input on any corrections that should be made. I think I will be trying my hand one more time in ordering another bunch of Bolivian rams as I'd like a bigger group than just the 3. 8/25 - Received 6 Bolivian rams from Aqua Huna. Put them in my cycled 20gal QT tank which is bare bottom w/ a sponge filter, java fern, coconut shell and PVC pipe for hides. Started them on QT med trio. Ammonia - 0 Nitrate - 10 Nitrite - 0 GH - 300+ KH - 300 PH - 8.4 CL2 - 0 Temp - 80* After QT finished, started feeding fish extreme flake and nano pellet. Occasionally would give frozen brine and daphnia. I changed water every few days. Left fish in QT until 9/25. After the med trio I proceeded to lose 3 fish. About 1 a week. They were all colored nicely then suddenly got really grey, hide, and then swim like they were drunk and breathe rapidly. Almost looked neurological. No visible signs of issues on outside of body. They hugged the bottom of the tank and when they died they did not float to the surface. Water parameters in QT stabilized at: Ammonia - 0 Nitrate - 10-25 Nitrite - 0 GH - 300+ KH - 80 PH - 7.04 CL2 - 0 TDS - 552 Temp - 80* The 3 remaining rams are loving the planted 75 gal community tank. They are eating great and swimming all over. They are nice and bright in color and look to be feeling well. Picture attached. Tank Paramaters: Ammonia - 0 Nitrate - 10-25 Nitrite - 0 GH - 300+ KH - 120 PH - 6.91 CL2 - 0 TDS - 573 Temp - 80* Thank you for your help!
  11. Anyone have experience with a ghost knife fish and the med trio? I've heard meds can be very hard on them. anyone have any experience with the Trio on them?
  12. I have a new betta in quarantine tank with the med trio. Tomorrow I start water changes. Can/should I also add a carbon filter?
  13. Hello, This is my first time using this forum. I need help or need someone to help me. I am currently starting a betta sorority and have all five female bettas each in their own temporary 2 gallon tanks. I purchased the medication trio: paracleanse, maracyn, and ich-x. However, the instructs call for treating 10 gallons of water. My five tanks are each 2 gallons. My question is: Can I get a bucket of 10 gallon of water mix all three medication into the bucket and then pour this mixture into the individual 2 gallon tanks for each betta? If someone can please help me out, I would gratefully appreciate it. Thank you, Alex
  14. Cory and others state when they get new fish they get a treatment before going into a community tank. Question is, what medications do you treat with and how long do you keep them in isolation? What is the whole process from purchase to placement? Someone have a video link? I'm sure Cory did a video on it.
  15. I just got some new fish today, some black neon tetras and lemon tetras and put them in my quarantine tank. Right now it is lights out to help keep them calm after having to be transported here. So when should I start up the Med Trio? I didn't want to subject the fish to it immediately on being added, as I was worried it would be a bit much for them after having to go through being moved today. Should I feed them a couple days before I start the process? The tank has a full cycled sponge filter and excess frogbit to also help keep the water in good shape.
  16. I am setting up a quarantine tank for new additions and am hoping for some advice. Right now I have my sponge filter media hanging out in my hang-on filter to get seeded. I figure this is the best way to get the tank cycled. I will be first using it to quarantine some anubias for a few days, and then after they are done, will use it for fish if it is okay cycle-wise. I will be adding some frogbit, since I have a ton in the main tank, and I figure it will help make the quarantine tank be a little more secluded. I am also putting in some rocks as well some wood. One I get the new fish in there, I am planing to use the Med-Trio. However, I am worried this will destroy my biological filter because of the anti bacteria meds. I am wondering what to do here, as if destroys the filter, how can I safely keep the new fish? Any people have experience here?
  17. I've read through the forum on loads of Med-Trio stuff. I'm looking for input though still. Here is the situation: 1. I have new Cyps in Qt (not quite two weeks) 2. One died about a day after arrival, which I put down to stress as it showed no signs of disease upon examination 3. This morning I lost a second fish, though it had a deformed spine and I've been watching it since it came in because of that, and it never looked great 4. The rest of the fish are eating well and active, plus showing no signs of disease 5. These are F1 gen from wild caught 6. The water is 8.4pH, so ammonium spikes are also actual ammonia spikes to some level 7. I don't really like using meds unless necessary, as pathogen resistance is a real thing So, should I medicate, or continue to watch? I know there are strong opinions on this topic, so I would ask that people please be respectful to each other. I'm kind of weighing pros and cons at this point. If another one goes, it ceases to be a quandary and I'll medicate. But because the one I just lost had a pretty severe deformity, I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment. Thanks all!
  18. So I just got in some new fish, and want to try the med trio for the first time. Do I wait a couple days for the fish to de-stress from transport (overnight) or just use the meds right away? Should I feed before using meds?
  19. shaddai8

    medication

    like to know what medication is safe for kuhli loaches in quarantine
  20. So, one of my tanks (classic guppies/snails/shrimp tank) had some clear parasite issues so I medicated it with paracleanse according to Aquarium Coop's directions and that is going very well. However I decided to medicate another tank I have because I have been using the same nets back and forth and some of the mollies there had clamped fins and another fish there had recently got half her tail bitten off so I figured the antibacterial and anti fungal wouldn't hurt so I hit it with the full classic trio, Marycin, ich-x and paracleanse. The morning after, the tank is super cloudy, fish gasping for air and my salvini male starts showing some extreme dying behaviour (sinking to the bottom, smashing into the substrate and decor, floating upside down, etc...). So I did a 80% waterchange and added an airstone but meanwhile the salvini male died. Has anyone had a similar experience with those meds? I think they might have maybe killed a lot of beneficial bacteria and/or depleted the water of oxygen.
  21. Does anybody QT Shrimp and do the Med trio on them ? I have never heard @Cory mention anything about the trio with shrimp or snails for that matter although I understand the meds are snail and shrimp safe.
  22. Got in a dozen pencilfish and what should have been 10 otos today--5 otos didn't make it. Anyway, noticed some rough tails on the remaining otos, abrasions on the pencilfish, so I treated with API Erythromycin. Of course, as soon as I dosed, I noticed what looked like Ich on one of the otos. I then dosed Ich-X. I had originally planned to run through all 3 meds from the (old) trio one-by-one, but now I feel pretty sure that these guys actually need both the erythromycin and Ich-X. Question is, should I let them marinate in today's dose for the full week without dosing again, or, since they already have problems, should I continue with the full doses as advised on the med directions and hit them with dose 2 tomorrow? Also, assuming I should do the latter (at least that's how I'm leaning before I posted here), am I okay doing the full doses of both the erythromycin and Ich-X or do they only work well together when given in the single dose the Coop usually advises as part of the standard quarantine trio? Thanks for your advice!
  23. I think my spotted congo puffer might have it she has been active and fine but never seems to go away I tried the med trio what should I do ?
  24. Can you use the med trio in your main tank with an African dwarf frog in it?
  25. why is it necessary to fast fish while using the quarantine trio? Thanks!
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